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Ha! Paying £4.5m for a 30 year old midfielder is a lot, no? Looks like shifting Arteta has cost Everton quite a bit. I'm sure Pisti will disagree.
Pienaar did well in the 2nd half of the season but it's quite desperate if you ask me.
If Arsenal get anything more than £12m for van Persie I'd consider it extremely good business for them. A player who can hardly stay fit, doesn't want to extend his contract and who's had one really good season and some really mediocre ones previously. He's 29? and has got perhaps another 2 seasons left in him like last season and to pay £20m for that you'd have to be a few cans short of a six pack.