Royalty

You can, but you went beyond discussion and in your own word it's an argument.

That you then turned personal and made attacks on individuals is why lots of reasonable people are now turning on you. You veil threats and stomp your feet, it comes across as both threatening and childish. A bully to anyone who doesn't share your views.

The fundamental problem is similar to that of religion, if you grow up accepting something and being told things by those around you, then you may not ever question it rigorously. It becomes more of a faith based set of beliefs rather than a reasoned one. Then, when others question your views you find yourself lacking the answers and choose to get personal with those who are asking the questions.

It's fine to have faith based beliefs. Just don't try and then argue in a reasoned debate based on faith. It's what trips up most religious people too. Logic is a trap for faith, and faith cannot stand on the same ground.

The flipside to that is that faith is a trap for logical people... you could've conceded the faith based element to being a Royalist, and thus infuriated all of those attempting to use reasoning.

You could've done a lot of things. But you chose to make lots of personal attacks.

Veil threats.....? Er? What?

VB you would have banned me for that, and you would have been 100% right for doing so. I don't actually know what you're referring to there.

Background-based element to my being a royalist, is certainly true. Not faith based. I can argue politics, but never religion. I leave that to those in the Middle East....they're more experienced in such matters.

Ed, I apologise for overstepping the mark.

Yes, you were right about the tyre thing, and I wasn't. And here, you behaved better than I did. Noted,