Time Trial / Time Trialling / TT

Will do, just occurred to me that I might be able to sweet talk Tiswas into lending me his batmobile.

Do it on your road bike. Jesus. I was out there on mine tonight with the only concession to aero being 50mm wheels. Why ride someone else's bike when you've spent time and money building one up that fits and works just fine?
Rode the 25 miles from work to the start only to miss sign-on by about 5 minutes. Hovered around making conversation for a bit then delivered Laner's bag to the finish in time to catch JAMIE storming in. Chatted to the time keepers, rode back up the hill to the start then gave it an unofficial run. Which I know is frowned upon but the timekeepers were understanding of my predicament. Garmin said 25:00 bang on which I was happy with having ridden out at quite a pace and with 65 miles in the legs for today by the time I got to the start line.
Came home the long way, 113 miles isn't bad for a Wednesday :/

Or a week.........

Get a job 6pt.. or a girlfriend, ffs.. :P

Bad luck Laner, and bad luck Tom!

I'm still pissed about not being able to make it last night. Do have a pass for next week though, although it'll probably piss down.

Will do, just occurred to me that I might be able to sweet talk Tiswas into lending me his batmobile.
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Saw that on Strava, I'm in awe of your heart rate.

How is this relevant, unless you know his maximum and LTHR?

Oddly I was thinking about your turbo / road LTHR dichotomy posted about elsewhere when I was doing a turbo session last night, and it struck me that when you race or TT you should probably not have access to your heart rate data as I think it might constrain your performance.

How is this relevant, unless you know his maximum and LTHR?

Oddly I was thinking about your turbo / road LTHR dichotomy posted about elsewhere when I was doing a turbo session last night, and it struck me that when you race or TT you should probably not have access to your heart rate data as I think it might constrain your performance.

You could say the same for any feedback. Having power or hr or pain might make you slow down but that's not necessarily a bad thing, if it stops you blowing up.

I just use it in inspire awe in dammit and may fun of his puny heart.

You could say the same for any feedback. Having power or hr or pain might make you slow down but that's not necessarily a bad thing, if it stops you blowing up.

Agree to an extent, but ultimately I think MDCC is probably right that the best thing to go on is feel.

I just use it in inspire awe in dammit and may fun of his puny heart.

You might say that a higher heart rate is a 'punier' heart rate.

I remember looking at Flecha's HRM data from the tour last year, and his heart rate was incredibly low even during high wattage efforts.

The point is that heart rate can only be used and understood in the context of an individual's parameters. It is pointless to compare your absolute heart rate against someone else's.

I did realise this :)

Sorry - I will shut up now.

Having said all this, I'm slightly surprised that someone of MDCCs vintage could average 186bpm for a 10. Wonder what he could average in his youth.

It's probably a pointless metric unless you understand how it factors in with your performance over a given distance / period.

All the data is pointless unless you understand it and how it relates to you and your racing/training.

Agree to an extent, but ultimately I think MDCC is probably right that the best thing to go on is feel.

I tend to agree but am personally bad at this so have usually used HRMs and power meters. Emotive pacing ftl!

Need to get down to Bexley once i get my bike fixed. Apparently it should be sorted today...

Hang in for 20 miles, ouch.

Although I'm quite looking forward to some longer distances (can't believe I just wrote that!). I have knocked out 75 miles in 3 hours before fixed, so I reckon(hope) I could just about manage a 4.30..

I usually have to 'hang in' for a lot more than 20 miles.

I think everyone, except perhaps the really talented, will have a bad patch a some point in a 100. Usually feeling bad doesn't last all that long and a 'second wind' carries you to the finish.

**Hounslow & District Wheelers Ron Brown Memorial 100. (27.5.2012) **

“Nowadays time trialling is all about 10’s and 25’s – no one’s interested in the longer distances”.

The start sheet for the 2012 Hounslow 100 demonstrates the falseness of this statement. Trevor Gilbert, the longstanding organiser, has received 103 entries, which is the highest number for many years, and spectators can expect to see hot competition among the fast men at the top end of the field since ten riders have qualifying times inside 4 hours. These are:

Julian Jenkinson (Contre la Montre) 3.28.41
Nik Bowdler (Team Pedal Revolution) 3.32.27
Adam Topham (High Wycombe CC) 3.38.46*
Steve Berry (Team Swift) 3.41.58
Gregory Woodford (Reading CC) 3.52.53
Phil Ember (Kingston Wheelers) 3.53.02
Guy de Selincourt (Camel Valley CC) 3.53.20
George Brent (Addiscombe CC) 3.55.09
Giles Oakley (Clevedon & Dist.CC) 3.57.12
David Shepherd (GS Stella) 3.57.25.

*Adam Topham won the 2011 Ron Brown Memorial with this time.

Two others to watch for, novices at the century but with clear potential, are Chris Goodfellow (Oxford City RC) who has a 1.48.30 fifty to his credit, and James Gilfillian (Contre la Montre) who won the Charlotteville 50 (on this same course) last week. His p.b.50: 1.46.16.

Finally in the sub four hour category we have the Hounslow’s own tandem pair of Paul Holdsworth and Jill Bartlett who are hoping to improve on their 2011 performance of 3.56.22 and pick up some more records.

A brief historical note: This event was first run as an ‘open’ by the legendary Calleva RC in 1945, and was taken over by the Hounslow in 1956. Over the years the winners of this event have also won 73 national championships (at various distances) and 30 BBAR competitions. The promoting club has often scored successes with six members winning thirteen editions outright, plus a total of thirty team victories.

The course is all on the A31 road between Farnham and the Chawton roundabout near Alton, the HQ is Bentley village hall and the first man is off at 8.01 a.m. There are those who say that watching time trials is boring, but I am confident that this event, especially in the final 25 miles, will provide plenty of interest.

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Need to get down to Bexley once i get my bike fixed. Apparently it should be sorted today...

What did you do???

I still can't comprehend racing 100mi going faster than my feeble 25mi efforts.

It's just not fair.

sulks

100 comp record is a speed I struggle to match for a flying lap at Palmer Park :-(

Did my first 10 tonight, 26.56 which I'm really pleased with. Fairly windy conditions, did it on the drops and 79GI. Got aerobars for next week, and considering upping my gear to 84.

Your course is too flat!

Nice time ;-)

Cheers, I'm more than happy with a flat course! It was the A10/11, strava reckons 223 feet of climbing. Only other guy riding fixed did a 22.59, think that was on 108GI

James Gilfillian (Contre la Montre) who won the Charlotteville 50 (on this same course) last week.

One to watch, albeit possibly not for the reasons you think. After he did a 50:58 in the Farnborough & Camberley 25 in April, I was surprised that he could manage "only" a 1:48 in the 50. Conditions were much better for the 50, with higher temperature and less wind. For comparison, I actually had a faster average speed in the 50 than the 25, and I'm notoriously rubbish at the distance.