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@Hovis
ya, will give this a go. Also, and I realize this isn't the thread to ask but i know tom is rocking sram doubletap so shall ask anyway. With the front derailleur, when on the small ring, is one click supposed to shove it onto the big and the next click the "trim position" to stop it rubbing on smallest sprocket at the rear? I don't understand this whole trimming business.