Current Projects chat and miscellany

You could just 'crimp' it more yourself (is that really the correct term)?
I put a dent into the chainstay of my Penine frame with a ball-pein hammer -cause the spider was hitting. the spider misses now by 4-5mm -the crank ends are a way off and this is a Superbe-pro Chainset, so not one with a wide tread. In my experience its usually the spider that hits the stay, so something aint right here.
I missed how old the frame is, have you crashed it? if its newish and as straight as when you got it I agree -it's time to be Mr Angry.

There was discussion about measuring whether the frame was tracked properly (the string method works). Try that first -if you haven't- and check rear triangle to main allignment.

I am not so sure about doing it myself, I want it to be as clean looking as possible Ted has a tool to do it more evenly. I think the problem is that the stays have been welded at the far edges of the BB shell maybe to make it easier to file down the fillet brazes? It is deff an over site by 14 but I bought it 2 years ago and had no issue and for the sake of £25 including bottom bracket fitting and to get it done that day I decided it was better to not wait for ages arguing with 14 It would have cost me more on Oyster top-up.

Ted measured the frame its straight.

Lee Cooper makes their frames, no? They've never had their own production facilities.

Yes Lee Cooper made/makes their frames mine is stamped LC under the bb before the serial number

all this fuss over 5mm?

Well I didn't know about the issue before I bought the cranks I could have exchanged them but I didn't want to. Also the frame is even more personal to me now which I like, I don't intend on selling it any time soon.

Ted used to build for them no?

Ted only built some of the ESB trick bikes, who knows who is building the 14R. 14 Is still open sort of. They are nearby but operate a phone/internet business only.