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Does the SA kick back suffer from the same spongyness?

I wouldn't say it was 'spongy' as such, but it was definitely draggy, although I only had mine for a few dozen miles so it hadn't broken in yet. All hub gears are like that. I wouldn't buy an S2C though - poor build quality in my experience.

The indirect feel of the gearing isn't exactly nice, hard to described really, all the gears apart from the direct one felt rather soft and spongy

Yeah, the good thing about my AW hub wheel was that direct-drive was also the cruising gear. Hub-geared bikes tend to have a more sedate design generally, though.

Does the SA kick back suffer from the same spongyness?

The kickback is worse than spongy in my experience; unreliable with a grabby brake (if you go for the coaster version).

It's bad enough that it has a full outer cable, then they go and put sharp angles in the routing. That's gonna feel horrible. Nice but poorly thought out.

Not full outer, internal routing runs through brass tubes in the frame, that bend is no tighter than the one I have on my bike, my brakes feel great.

A 20 mile round trip in the van £25 given to the man and i arrive home. A day of fiddling and raiding parts bins gives me this which needs a different front tyre and new tubes :)

It's deceptive, put a set square on the screen.

Yep, I did. Still doesn't look like a zero rise to me. Its negative if anything.

Will, that's a great name for a bike! What are your plans for it?

get tyre and tubes sorted, then ride. need to make/get/find a rack for the back to carry candy and suchlike

Thats lovely.... Definitely my favorite (looking) version of the XTR groupset too, those chainsets were great.

I hate the front rack and stupid little pump holder.

I hate the front rack and stupid little pump holder.

+1

Otherwise nice.

got a lot of time for this, even if it is step through....

Love the internal routing for the rear brake going through the disc support

It's a nice frame, but with those handlebars' and the pimped bits why not have hydro disc brakes?

I can tell you why - internal cable routing, I do agree as hydro would be fantastic on a town bike, a lots less maintenance needed and much easier to notice when it's time to replace the brake pads.

and why hasn't the builder cut down the mudguard?

I can tell you why - internal cable routing, I do agree as hydro would be fantastic on a town bike, a lots less maintenance needed and much easier to notice when it's time to replace the brake pads.

and why hasn't the builder cut down the mudguard?

Internal hosing in those tight bends would work much better than internal cabling too.

I can tell you why - internal cable routing, I do agree as hydro would be fantastic on a town bike, a lots less maintenance needed and much easier to notice when it's time to replace the brake pads.

and why hasn't the builder cut down the mudguard?

Internal hosing in those tight bends would work much better than internal cabling too.

So all in all, not that functional after all!

(gone off internal hubs now)

gets on internal hubs

and why hasn't the builder cut down the mudguard?

Isn't it so if the paragon dropouts are ever run fully rearward there will be enough length in the mudguard stay to suit the rearward position of the wheel?

I know it has belt drive, but that doesn't mean it won't ever run a chain at some point in its life...

I can tell you why - internal cable routing, I do agree as hydro would be fantastic on a town bike, a lots less maintenance needed and much easier to notice when it's time to replace the brake pads.

Hmm... Internal hosing, add some fittings to each opening and screw the hoses to the frame. Might be a bit of a bitch if the hose inside breaks a leak at some point.

or do the Rob English was and braze tubes inside to bleed directly into (with relevant threads/ports/caps and whatnot).

can't bloody find it now. But I swear I've seen it.

It's a nice frame, but with those handlebars' and the pimped bits why not have hydro disc brakes?

I agree hydro brakes would probably cope with the bends in the routing a bit better, but honestly.

Hydraulic disk brakes, on a step-through ladies town bike?

Maybe if it's winter, and you live in La Rinconada, and have a fairly hilly commute.