Which Groupset?

Are you getting the GS as a package?

If so then I'd keep the brakes. Shimano make good brakes. Is it worth paying to upgrde for something that isn't an upgrade?

I won't be buying as a group as I don't need the crankset and am picky about chains/cassettes - planning on picking it up slowly on the bay to save myself some pennies.

Also have you looked at the breakdown of the weight of each item in a groupset?

I think overall weights can be misleading... seem to remember as a whole on some basis Campag having the lightest.

http://totalcycling.com/component-weights.html

part-by-part brakedown

Allez *Elite *if you please ;)

I've actually just taken the PX brakes off and put Ultegra on cos the new near-black version is sexxay.

I never had any problems with them until I changed my stock cables to Jagwires and couldn't get them to play nicely with a wider A23 rim on rear wheel but that might have been more to do with inept guaging of correct housing length from rear cable stop. There's no QR or centring adjustment bolt on them like Shimano so you can't fine tune pad distance as easily.

andyp has them on his winter training bike too but I think his comments elsewhere on here are that he wouldn't want to be descending an Alp on them but they are fine.

edit hippy and braker have also run them so I think you have quite a good sample of fast moving lumps that need some stopping who seem to be happy with them.

Are calling me a lump? ;)

... at least I'm fast moving if so..