Current Projects chat and miscellany

I think it needs some rim depth to go with the fat down tube; mine with 24mm deep rims looks a bit wrong, long term I'm thinking about something in the 40-45mm region. Groupset according to budget and prejudice - 2012 Red would be nice, but 2011 Force is ⅓ the price and 99% as good.

My thoughts exactly, 2011 Force is going fairly cheap now and probably try out the new PX deep section rims, or take my chances with some Chinese Crabon