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  • Was very slow this am too, but enjoyed the rain - nice to have a change of weather, and it's so warm today, the cooling was needed.

  • Are you human?!

    Warm! What do you do in the summer, live in a fridge?

    I did wear shorts this morning but I had 3 layers on top (slight overkill) and a hat on and didn't feel warm at any stage in my run!

  • ^^ Yeah I know that feeling. I hate summer - I'm already overheating in t-shirt+shorts.
    :(

  • I've been working on increasing tolerance for cold this winter to help with longer stage races I'm considering - no central heating, keep windows open, only wear shorts and t-shirt / vest, swim OW throughout the winter. Makes a big difference.

    Go back a couple of hundred years - most of this country was living in huts with an open fire in one room, draughts everywhere, one set of damp, ragged clothes, thin sheets, no modern fibres - we're made to acclimatise. I'd guess the UK populace has only been mostly 'warm' for the last 50 years.

  • It's pretty warm. Got some miles in last night with shorts and long sleeve and was a bit too warm

  • Anybody here suffer from rhinitis? Was diagnosed with it about 2 years ago, after years of running with a snotrag. I currently use a nasal spray but will have a chat with the GP tomorrow to see if there is anything else that works a little better.

    got diagnosed with this as a kid
    used to do this funny thing that they called very medically 'atopic salute'
    (rubbing nose)
    tbh they gave me inhalers and shit but I just hardened tfu
    learn to do snot rockets

  • Hi there, long-time luker, sometime poster.

    Over the past year or so I've been trying to improve my running - nothing too strenuous (a couple of 5K's mid-week and a longer run at the weekend) but I'm consistently struggling with shin-splints. I've tried everything I can think of: rest, ice, stretching, compression, different trainers and short of doing a Pistorious I'm completely out of ideas. If I'm honest I thinking I should just hang up the trainers for good. I've asked about it before in this thread, and thanks for the answers, but if anyone has any other ideas I'd really appreciate it?

    Not against splashing out on a reputable physio or podiatrist but tried physio last year with no success so I'm a little sceptical.

  • Bluerip00 on here is a good physio in case you wanna try again

  • @ *m.f - I tried the snot rockets with minimum success, especially during my last two marathons. Too watery, hence the snotrag.

    I was going to say London is bad for my health but I remembered I ran the Jamaica marathon and my nose/lungs was just as bad there. If I gave up running I'd be fine but I'm too old to stop plus I'd have to watch what I eat - one of my joys in life :-)

  • Thanks kboy, I'll drop Bluerip00 a PM

  • Is it usual to be so nervous about a run?

    Doing 22 miles tomorrow and I spent all night worrying about it, deciding I have phantom pains everywhere!

    No idea why, I've run 19 miles in one go in the last two weeks and I've run for a much greater period of time in the last 3 so whilst it will be challenging its not pushing my limits that much..

    Htfu Ed

  • Was it on here that SmallFurry was talking about the seam of a pair of tights cutting his leg from arse to foot during a long distance run? You all need to learn the art of lounging about at home - it's less harmful in the short term (more harmful in long term, admittedly).

    RonHill bottoms, still have faint scars.

    I've also chaffed my inner thighs to the point that my shoes started to fill with blood. I thought it was sweat running down my legs.

    Oh and a lost half my little toe nail some time ago.

    Oh oh, must'nt forget when I rubbed the ends of my nipples near clean off.

    Heading into the snow covered woods, on the small mountain behind my house tonight. Running to the light of my head torch, over rocks, and around a semi frozen lake. What could go wrong?

  • Is it usual to be so nervous about a run?

    Doing 22 miles tomorrow and I spent all night worrying about it, deciding I have phantom pains everywhere!

    No idea why, I've run 19 miles in one go in the last two weeks and I've run for a much greater period of time in the last 3 so whilst it will be challenging its not pushing my limits that much..

    Htfu Ed

    Its the fact that you are so ready that is causing the stress. If you were poorly prepared the pressure to succeed would be far less.

    At least thats how I read it. I did my last half marathon with an ankle still sprained from a nasty rugby injury only a week previous. TBH it loosened up OK, so was'nt a big deal. But runnig the thing with a 'get out of jail free card' was liberating. Still did 103mins (usually just under 100 for a half).

  • When you get eaten by wolves or frozen into a popsicle, can I have your 29er?

    Actually, I seem to remember you saying that you're tiny. Nevermind.

  • Its only the frame thats small though.

    I always run with my mobile during winter. The chances of twisting an ankle and having to walk home, grossly underdressed for walking, and soaked with sweat, at -7deg. Are actually quite high.

  • Its only the frame thats small though.

    Good point.

    Don't worry about taking your mobile, you'll be fine. Why not take an extra-long run tonight? Etc, etc...

    DISCLAIMER: BE SAFE IT'S JUST A JOKE DON'T DIE OK?

  • I've just searched the thread but can't find anything... is it OK that I never carry water with me when I'm running?

  • dont do either, but think itd help over 7k

  • yeah, I just did 12 miles and it occurred to me I probably should. So boring to carry though.

  • I believe, but can't remember the reasoning, that dehydration reduces the ability of your muscles in endurance events, but has no effect on strength. Past a certain point you'll reach a threshold which will begin to affect your performance. I think it has something to do with Phosphate and H+/ Ca2+? K+ levels.

    having said that, on proper long runs you should take something that isn't water, but electrolyte, because you can get quite severe hyponatraemia (low sodium) and therefore hypovolemia (low blood volume)?

  • Hmm this may be why my first 6 miles were the fastest I've recorded on Strava and the last 6 were rubbish. Although the fact that it's entirely uphill from Catford to Crystal Palace via Sydenham may've had more to do with that.

  • please tell me theres no baby bottle carriers on this forum ffs.if youre set up and getting conditioned Tricity- having water/nuun in your tank way before a distance run will become second nature.then just top ups as your body requires.

  • I've just searched the thread but can't find anything... is it OK that I never carry water with me when I'm running?

    I don't because fuck carrying water, but I would imagine it would be a good idea. One day.

    Also:

  • I'm always amazed at the number of people who hit the first water station after 20 mins in half marathons. If you're properly hydrated at the start of the race you shouldn't need a drink for an hour in hot weather, or at all in this weather, assuming you're running faster than nine minute mile pace.

  • I'm sorry sharkstar, but thats wrong.

    You do need rehydrating for any lengthy run , especially in cold weather, as you dehydrate at a similar rate, but you have a reduced thirst drive. *

    On the note of early drinking in marathons, some people use it as a motivating force/ rhythm, plus, little and often (+electrolytes) = good hydration. Lots and infrequently (-electrolytes) = poor hydration.

    Since recently I havent run past the distance that I know I need to rehydrate at, I no longer carry anything. But when I used to- I'd stash a bottle somewhere on a loop based run.

    • this is due to peripheral vasoconstriction (non-essential blood supply shut off to reduce loss to cold) masking the volume loss in the central baroceptors (pressure centres in aorta[high P], and veins [low P]), which means reduced ADH (vasopressin/ anti diuretic hormone, increases water reabsorption), which is related to thirst, and can reduce thirst (which is a relatively late stage in dehydration) by 40%.
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