[QUOTE=tatty-viking;2636334]There are a couple of reasons that I don't do it.
Safety
In the majority of instances I could jump a red light whilst minimising the risk to myself and others. However, some instances may arise that I could not anticipate that would put myself or others at risk.
Perception of other road users
Whilst I may be able to manage the risk of crossing the lights without putting myself or others at risk, this action may give rise to a perception amongst other road users that I believe I am above the law. I prefer not to foster that perception as I believe it increases risk to cyclists as road users in general.
Predictability
This ties to the two points above. When other road users start to act unpredictably it increases the risk of road use to me. Given the expectation that road users should wait at red lights, jumping the light is inherently unpredictable and therefore increases risk.
It can be a bit of a drag waiting at lights, but I commute 30km a day and I would estimate that at most it costs me 10 minutes. Set against the points above, I can tolerate that.
A post full of assumptions — If you just worried about yourself and stopped being so self riotous then the world would be a better place.[/QUOTE]
A post full of what seem to me to be quite reasonable assumtions. Which bits did you actually think where wrong, and why?
From my side:
Safety.
As a driver, you're trained that pedestrians are unprdictable around lights, someone might run from an alley that you've not spotted to get across. I'd rather avoid hitting this person, whether on my bike or in my car. Yes, 99.9999% of the time its likely to be fine, but that 0.0001% when I'm wrong? The risk is tiny, but I'm all for minimising it.
Perception of other road users
How often do we hear complaints from drivers about cyclist not believing that the rules apply to them? Yes, it's sometimes from drivers who are totally in the wrong (in an ASL box maybe), but I've often seen it online, or at the bottom of blog posts. Drivers that think that we believe that the rules don't apply to us, might just be those that decide that maybe they won't apply to them if its 'just' a cyclist they've hit.
Predictability
Drivers deal best with predictable things. They might be more wary of unpredictable ones, such as the cyclist who ducks in and out between parked cars, but people generally find things that are predictable are easier to deal with. Predictability also means doing what is expected of you. you are expected to stop at reds, if you don't you introduce doubt. That next set of reds, will you stop? You might, know, the dirver behind you certainly won't.
Waiting at lights cost me about 4 minutes on my 5 mile ride in and out. Thats a increase of 18% in time. If I jumped the reds that I could, I'd get in about 2 minutes faster. is that really worth it? I think not, others think it is.
A post full of assumptions — If you just worried about yourself and stopped being so self riotous then the world would be a better place.
His post wasn't self riotous, it was answering a question. Mine is asking you a question, and expaining why I agree with the original post. I'd like to hear your views to increase my knowledge.
A post full of assumptions — If you just worried about yourself and stopped being so self riotous then the world would be a better place.[/QUOTE]
A post full of what seem to me to be quite reasonable assumtions. Which bits did you actually think where wrong, and why?
From my side:
Safety.
As a driver, you're trained that pedestrians are unprdictable around lights, someone might run from an alley that you've not spotted to get across. I'd rather avoid hitting this person, whether on my bike or in my car. Yes, 99.9999% of the time its likely to be fine, but that 0.0001% when I'm wrong? The risk is tiny, but I'm all for minimising it.
Perception of other road users
How often do we hear complaints from drivers about cyclist not believing that the rules apply to them? Yes, it's sometimes from drivers who are totally in the wrong (in an ASL box maybe), but I've often seen it online, or at the bottom of blog posts. Drivers that think that we believe that the rules don't apply to us, might just be those that decide that maybe they won't apply to them if its 'just' a cyclist they've hit.
Predictability
Drivers deal best with predictable things. They might be more wary of unpredictable ones, such as the cyclist who ducks in and out between parked cars, but people generally find things that are predictable are easier to deal with. Predictability also means doing what is expected of you. you are expected to stop at reds, if you don't you introduce doubt. That next set of reds, will you stop? You might, know, the dirver behind you certainly won't.
Waiting at lights cost me about 4 minutes on my 5 mile ride in and out. Thats a increase of 18% in time. If I jumped the reds that I could, I'd get in about 2 minutes faster. is that really worth it? I think not, others think it is.
His post wasn't self riotous, it was answering a question. Mine is asking you a question, and expaining why I agree with the original post. I'd like to hear your views to increase my knowledge.