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well the top hit on google's image search gives us this...

Was it worth the removal of double jeopardy though?

I think it probably was. As much as you can't have innocent people convicted, you can't have guilty people walking free. There has to be some mechanism which allows for the overwhelmingly guilty to be rightfully charged for a terrible crime such as that. By the looks of things the improvements in forensics and DNA testing have pinned their backs to the wall. It's almost a certainty that Norris and Dobson are guilty. Nothing removes their guilt, not even the comfort of double jeopardy. That should only apply to the innocent, not the guilty.

Good job I don't claim to be consistent then.

Well an accused can only be innocent or guilty. That's a given. There's room for opinion and persuasiveness in assuming one way or the other, but there's more room for hard, factual proof. There's that in the case of this pair now. In my view that trumps any constitutional right to protection. If you can point the finger with firm certainty, then it should be done.

First Raspberry Pi boards are for sale, and bids are excellent.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/489

Looking forward to the main production run of these. I don't even know what I want to do with it, but I want one.

**What’s a Raspberry Pi?
**The Raspberry Pi is a credit-card sized computer that plugs into your TV and a keyboard. It’s a capable little PC which can be used for many of the things your desktop PC does, like spreadsheets, word-processing and games. It also plays high-definition video. We want to see it being used by kids all over the world to learn programming.

How much will it cost?
The Model A will cost $25 and the Model B $35.
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^For those, like me, who had no idea what it was and didn't want to navigate elsewhere. Esp when the 'About Us' section of the site doesn't work :)

OK, now it's working.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/01/03/kim-jong-un-looks-at-things-too_n_1180496.html?ref=uk

Cycle to the south Pole?

^ article also includes a handy 'don't lean' guide to not leaning in snow and ice

The two convicted Stephen Lawrence killers are to be sentenced as minors because they were 16 & 17 yrs old at the time of the offence.

Does this mean they will get a more lenient jail term?

She also won't be taking a puncture repair kit with her as it is extremely unlikely the tyres will puncture due to the steel belts woven inside.

fuck me, talk about tempting fate.

The two convicted Stephen Lawrence killers are to be sentenced as minors because they were 16 & 17 yrs old at the time of the offence.

Does this mean they will get a more lenient jail term?

Probably.. maybe about 15 years. Could have been min of 30 years if they were sentenced as adults and given that it was racially aggravated also.

#radio4

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/road-safety/8989366/Graphic-Londons-cycle-accident-black-spots-mapped.html

^^ they could get as little as twelve! I hope the judge sees fit to account for their complicity, perversion of justice and contempt as adults and their apparent lack of remorse. Also, shouldn't those family members who claimed they weren't there be done for perverting justice?

http://unitedreggae.com/news/n1135/010112/rodigan-receives-mbe

Big Up for Mr.Rodigan

Couldn't agree more WrongCog.
Norris' mum, who provided a false alibi, should defo be up on a charge.

Dobson: 15 years 2 months.

Norris 14 years +. both minimum.

The law is an ass..

Judge made it very clear in summing up that this would be minimum, and no guarantee of release then.

2 down, 3 to go.....

fuck me, talk about tempting fate.

Absoloooterly - I carry a spare tube even when I am on the tube. You can't be too careful.

How very meta.

The two convicted Stephen Lawrence killers are to be sentenced as minors because they were 16 & 17 yrs old at the time of the offence.

Does this mean they will get a more lenient jail term?

The fact they were minors at the time isn't the only factor. You can't retrospectively apply a law which didn't exist at the time. Racially aggravated murder, which carries a much longer sentence, wasn't recognised by law at the time.

As for the parents providing false alibis I wouldn't be so sure that they can be prosecuted. I mean does the law accept the guilty verdict as proof that his mother gave a false alibi?

They say they plan to bring the others to court, but on what evidence? I don't think they have any forensic evidence on them, it would only be witness statements. That can't be enough to bring them to trial again, even with the change in the law that brought Dobson to trial.

^Who do you mean by "they"? If you're referring to Stephen Lawrence's father's comments outside court, he was more hopeful of getting more justice than anything else. Doreen Lawrence used her statement as an opportunity to point out that more are at large but that she had little hope of them being brought to justice because of police incompetence at the time of the murder. The police say that there are no other open enquiries as it stands. The only hope really is that one of the guilty has more to say on the matter...