Winter gloves

I have been looking for waterproof glove's. BTW none of the Sealskins products are waterproof. I've tried lots of them and been disappointed.

I have some motorbike gauntlets that are great in below freezing conditions but Id like something I could wear over fleecy gloves in the rain. Basically a hard shell waterproof glove, with no insulation. Been looking on outdoorsy type site's but no joy.

I've never had s problem with Sealskinz not being waterproof but I find my hands and feet end up soaked with sweat.

I've been using DHB winter gloves for the last three winters and they've been excellent in all extreme conditions. I'm about to try some Specialized Deflect for the first time so I'll see how they go...