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it wasnt loose enough for ballbearings to fall out thats for sure! I took off the top cap and stem but the forks didnt budge, didnt want to go at it with a mallet.. ?
anyway, ive given it to my lbs to either clean or replace if needed. Unfortunately the mechanic had gone by half 5 and so she couldnt do it there and then and show me how it was done.