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or manufacturers (fuji and specialized for example) producing 2 lines of bikes. one for those lacking in flexibility and one for those with.

Indeed. But the "sportive model" still carries some negative connotations that certain customers don't like, no? I think Cervélo tried it (with the RS) but they seem to have dropped that and just hiked the headtubes across the board, on the assumption that a -17° stem will fix it if you want an old-fashioned 'pro' drop to the bars.