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So you know for a fact the Japanese shorts are cut differently and not just 3/4 length versions of an existing short (like more room around the thighs, maybe double fabric in the crotch and slightly higher at the back of the waist so you don't flash your arse crack when riding) and have a light loop?
I'm not thinking about buying some I'm just thinking about what Dickies would do if they made clothes more orientated to cycling. Similar to what they seem to be doing in Japan but easily available in the UK...