Get Some F**king Lights

good lights make make you much more visible than hi viz, which only really works when you are in the line of the cars lights

road positioning is more important than hi viz clothing

hi viz clothing vs lights - I would take the lights any day

My point wasn't really about hi-vis Vs. Lights.

As a driver in London I firmly belive that a set of these catseyes on your body, and maybe a set on your bike, plus reflective clothing - on a jacket, trouser clip, bag, etc. is far supirior to having a +£70 light on the front.

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...and I find it very hard to belive that anyone who has driven in London and experienced the difference between the various options would disagree.

I admit that it might not be as cool, give the same kit fetish satisfaction or bragging rights ;)

Your are correct that position is also important.