Weight / Fat loss

Avoiding too much sugar and carbs is good from a health stance. But is pretty easy and very common to lose a lot of weight / maintain ultra-skinny hipster look on a diet full of burst of sugar, carbs and little else.

Most of the "really skinny" people I know are people who just eat fruit, rice, beer and the odd cigarette. The kind of people who will start chomping sugar cubes if left in front of them.

Regarding the insulin thing, you can abuse your body with carbs and sugar, give yourself Insulin insensitivity/type II diabetes and still be as thin as a rake.

I have two uncles who had type II diabetes and were skinny, and are both now dead because of it.

What do you think it is helping with? Has your weight gone down in the last week or are you just feeling healthier?

It does sound a little confused, I'm afraid. Breaking carbs down more slowly will do nothing to stop them being stored as fat if you are taking in an excess. The reason slow-release carbs help in weight loss is that they are not fast-release carbs, which cause hunger pangs and thence over-eating.

perhaps i explained it wrong, it is to control blood sugars, when i say im feeling better, i mean i dont feel weirdly tired after eating and then ridiculosly hyper a few hours later. As it is quite likely I am going to be diabetic (every male in family for as long as i can see back) controlling the blood sugars surely would control your weight loss/gain too...?

im no scientist, or doctor, or even really give a shit about my weight, just wondering what people knew about this.

ok thanks for the responses, this thread is far too serious, im in over my head.

Back at the gym today so weight might stop decreasing.

Sprint to gym then work made me mega hungry. Had 2 Tesco Healthy Choices sandwiches, a whole tub of Onken Fat Free Vanilla Yoghurt and a full pack of blueberries.

Sorry if it's a repost but just came across this blog, the amazing 39 stone cyclist. Wow!
http://theamazing39stonecyclist.wordpress.com/about/

Sorry if it's a repost but just came across this blog, the amazing 39 stone cyclist. Wow!
http://theamazing39stonecyclist.wordpress.com/about/

Fella seems to have overdone it.

I know some people who've got great results.. with speed. Not sure how much teeth and hair weigh but fuck me they got skinny.

I know some people who've got great results.. with speed. Not sure how much teeth and hair weigh but fuck me they got skinny.

Any of that ampetamine shit is dead good for weight loss. Its thermogenic/speeds up metabolism. You burn more calories "at rest", you train much harder (or dance, whatever), plus is supresses appetite.

The same goes for other stuff like Caffeine or Ephedrine.

Some people use what they call an ECA stack. This is ephedrine, Aspirin and caffeine. The aspirin increases the effect of the others by thinning your blood. The ephedrine, constricts your blood vessels to some degree. Both it and Caffeine also do a lot more complex stuff.

Speed is basically the same but stronger.

Pro cyclists use Pot Belge, which throws heroin into the mix. Being a skinny fuck is great for hillclimbing.

90kg and defending club hc champ spits on skinny fucks*.

*bet you £200 I lose this year

ECA is no good if you're going to be tested. Ephedrine is still banned.

perhaps i explained it wrong, it is to control blood sugars, when i say im feeling better, i mean i dont feel weirdly tired after eating and then ridiculosly hyper a few hours later. As it is quite likely I am going to be diabetic (every male in family for as long as i can see back) controlling the blood sugars surely would control your weight loss/gain too...?

That does make sense, yes. Big plus for you to not feel out of balance and that will make it easier to concentrate on weight loss.

After not eating particularly well last week (got married, lots of drink, eating with friends both on the day and the week running up to it.) I'm now back on my health drive and finding this week incredibly hard.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/spenceeyp

I've been cycling every day (normal for me) but haven't had the drive to go running at all. Tonight I'm dragging myself out of that front door kicking and screaming if I have to.

I've been eating soup everyday this week which I guess is being healthy It's just after the bad week last week I don't seem to be in to this 100%.

Apologies for the rant, I guess if I've wrote it on line I've now got to go through with it!

If you don't enjoy running, why do it? Don't make your exercise regimen into a chore. Even if you normally like running and you just feel too bloated and slow this week, I'd say go with what your body is telling you. Ease back in with some long walks or similar.

That's the thing. I love running, really enjoy it once I'm out. I just seem to be really tired this week.

I don't think it is a good idea to run when you are tired; the chance of injuring yourself is much higher. Running is a high impact activity and good muscle tone and posture is important in protecting your joints and tendons. When you tire, the protection is gone and you're just asking to twist, stretch or tear something. If you do barefoot running, it's less risky because your feet won't let you push yourself the way cushioned trainers do, but it's still something to think through carefully.

Cycling when tired is a much less risky proposition, but being exhausted isn't a great way to live, so why not do some gentle cardio and rest up so that next week you can be fresh?

I just feel like I need to go for a good run though or I'm being lazy.

Perhaps just a short one tonight, may even take it easier than normal.

I don't really have a choice in cycling because that's how I travel and I really look forward to it.

On a lighter note:

Last Saturday morning in just 15 minutes I managed to shed 680 grammes, I'm going to weigh myself pre and post more often.

FFS "Two Tents", we don't need to hear about all of your movements.

I've been following the leangains intermittent fasting program for the last 2 weeks, and it's working really well so far.

I've been combining it with 200mg of caffeine 3 times a day - which may not sound like that much, but I don't drink tea/coffee or coke, so the first day, my last pill was at 6pm, and I was still wide awake at 3.30am

Intermittent fasting is eating for 8 hours, not eating for 16 - you can pick your own window, so I do 2pm to 10pm.

I also cycle carbs, so on the days I'm doing resistance training, I eat high carbs, and on the non training days its low carbs, high fat (protein stays the same)

I've been following the leangains intermittent fasting program for the last 2 weeks, and it's working really well so far.

I've been combining it with 200mg of caffeine 3 times a day - which may not sound like that much, but I don't drink tea/coffee or coke, so the first day, my last pill was at 6pm, and I was still wide awake at 3.30am

Intermittent fasting is eating for 8 hours, not eating for 16 - you can pick your own window, so I do 2pm to 10pm.

I also cycle carbs, so on the days I'm doing resistance training, I eat high carbs, and on the non training days its low carbs, high fat (protein stays the same)

Interesting, when you say working well, how much weight lost? Also, what training are you doing? Just resistance or cardio as well?

I'm just doing weights - following "Starting Strength" by Mark Riptoe.

I haven't lost any weight as I am following the recomposition plan, where you have 20% more calories than you should on training days, and 20% less on non-training days, so you stay the same weight, but put on muscle at the same time as loosing fat.

If you were interested in loosing weight, you could opt for a +10%/-20% split

I have enough loose weight already

This is quite an interesting read on fat loss and cycling

http://m.active.com/cycling/Articles/Why_fast_pedaling_makes_cyclists_more_efficient.htm

Tl;dr: pedalling faster burns more fat

Long steady rides in spinny gears.

Long steady rides in spinny gears.

I didn't read the article yet, and I'm fat, so feel free to disregard this post.

Isn't it pretty much scientifically proven™ that interval training is better for fat loss than long, steady jaunts?