• Bet thats fecking heavy. The tubes are rarely butted on these budget Ti frames. Making them heavier and dead feeling (no spring).

    So I've read anyway.

    I'm looking at (but cant afford) some custom Ti from Carver (still chitanium). Buying through a second party adds cost but adds a lot of buying power. Making sure you get a decent butting profile, that fits the size and use of the bike. Without that. Its like buying a Create, and saying its the same as a steel baum. Because the material is the same.

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