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  • As with anybody, it would depend on his behaviour. Don Walker didn't respect the etiquette of this thread, Dave Porter made claims for product performance he couldn't back up. Other frame builders and product manufacturers have got along fine here. Respect cuts both ways.

    In case you hadn't noticed, this thread has no fucking etiquette!

    You're not the judge, jury, and executioner, Dave Porter wasn't on trial, and he wasn't trying to sell his frames to anybody.
    He had no need to back up his claims any more than he did.
    You didn't treat him with respect right from the start.
    You were in attack mode as soon as he began to defend his design.
    Read your responses to everything he said...that wasn't respect or etiquette.

    Every frame, component, and bike builder on the market makes claims about their kit being strongest, fastest, lightest, whatever...they don't have to come and run their facts and figures past mdcc tester before people are allowed to like them, and their claims are also largely unsubstantiated.
    Even if they showed facts and figures, it would mean nothing to most people.

    The guy designed a bike, the bike was ridden, people broke some records on them...there is no need to then produce lab work results to go with it just to please a couple of people on LFGSS.
    Likewise, there is no need for people on LFGSS to cross examine everything he then says because he chooses not to.

    A big part of treating people with respect is knowing when to shut the fuck up and realize that you've said enough.

    That point for me is right here.