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so is the consensus go for the MW80s then?
Been researching options and also found these
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=55917
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=33268
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=57565
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=57564
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/specialized/bg-defroster-mtb-shoes-ec011616
Shimanos & specialized probably most pleasing to the eye, but am more bothered about having warm & dry feet than looking swish on the dark lonely 18 miles to work.