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I think they all understand HOW a cafe club ride should be, but they get chatting, knock down a few and march on for miles at a time before even realising more than the half the group is scattered down the valley behind them.
Good point with the racers hardening up, if they want fast/ training then ideally even if there are only a few of them, get out and do just that, not come and prey on the weak :D
Need to stay in with them though as there are no other club ride type clubs about, only mid-life crisis racers & tri people.