Bike porn

Yep happy to close thread. Mash made it in.

That Look is neat, but I think it's the fine tarmac that sells it.

IMO it's more in the aesthetically pleasing geometry and perspective offered by the lines of the car park.

qwe

TCR is road bike. Bad comparison maybe.

To summarise my friend can keep up with me on TCR, cannot on Mash.

I can eek out a few more mph from pursuit geo and maintain.

Teh Mash is a v light, stiff scandium track frame. Tis more than capable. That was my point.

Sound like you don't fit well on the TCR to take advantage of it.

Well we are all different! ill shutup now

Sounds like you can't judge speed more like :-)

A 5mph difference between two road type bikes is huge and could not be the difference between bikes alone (assuming both have similar wheel and tyres).

I can eek out a few more mph from pursuit geo and maintain.

Does the mash really have 'pursuit geometry' though?
you can extend the seatstays and seat tube with any angles and still get a forward sloping top tube.
I've ridden a mash and it's angles didn't exactly feel like 'pursuit geometry' to me.

I need to stop bleeting.

Ok, it's a faux pro. Whatevz.

Still, I can lay down more power than road geo and sustain for longer (on flat).

As Scoble says, it may be body shape.

(A true lo pro with 650 and cliff drop would be too uncomfortable for me)

Neck is fooked after hour as is.

What I meant is that it sound like your set-up on the TCR is different to the Cinelli, rather than the Cinelli being faster.

I find myself being able to push it easily on a Surly Crosscheck which is basically build as a tourer, something you don't usually want to push it on, which I though was odd considering that my Brooklyn were put together as a fast fixed wheel road bike, eventually I changed the stem on the Brooklyn for a 60mm one to shorten the reach, and were able to push it easily, much more than the Surly now.

Sounds like you can't judge speed more like :-)

A 5mph difference between two road type bikes is huge and could not be the difference between bikes alone (assuming both have similar wheel and tyres).

Bike pooters on both. (Not saying there is'nt play) More the fact I can drop other riders.

Does the mash really have 'pursuit geometry' though?

No it's "modern street racer" geometry, also known as anti-compact™.

too much talking on this page, toby, nuknow please fix this

Near perfect. Shall I close the thread?

umm, really? not with that t-rexish fit, come on!

miche cranks as well

Add blue bar tape to the list

No pleasing any of you

yuh

amazing thing... http://www.cycleexif.com/biscagne-cicli-umberto-dei

Are they Araya clinchers on the Look?

Shame about the stem and handlebar, way too modern for that bike.

Shame about the stem and handlebar, way too modern for that bike.

I like the chainset

That Look was/is beautiful.

Are they Araya clinchers on the Look?

Yes.

Look is as it should be. Color wise.
Choice of components is a bit all over the place.
The only bit that I don't like is the short(ish) stem).

...and Miche cranks.