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HillyBen
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I've never ridden fixed, and seems pointless stripping back to ss.
The forum is a laugh.
riding fixed is an entirely different kettle of fish, you'd find yourself enjoying your bicycle even more after riding a fixed wheel bicycle.
very different to a singlespeed which feel like a normal geared bicycle with one gear, hard work compared to a fixed wheel.
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It's really not derailing the thread. Those of us who do a lot of long rides, fixed, get pissed off with people who turn up on gears then proceed to ride at the front of the bunch like they're in the Tour de France and/or zoom down the outside of every descent as if they don't know how to use the perfectly effective brakes fitted to their road bikes.
This is entirely justified.
As ms.chris said this is definitely not true of everyone, I've ridden with lots of considerate folk too, and let's face it it isn't hard to ride in a group fixed with gears, it just requires a little thought and some consideration.
John was obviously annoyed enough by it after the Herne Hill ride to make this particular ride fixed only, so it really is quite pertinent.
And I wouldn't bother about trying to find hipster mates who ride fixed, they don't tend to go outside of zone 2, never mind the M25.
To be frank, there are lots of other rides organised which welcome people with gears. I've ran two myself in the last fortnight. So no moaning about this particular ride being fixed/SS only please.
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I'd like to try fixed, but i haven't got any hipster mates.
let's not derail this thread, guys.Then build up a cheap fixed wheel bicycle, call it a 'training' bike, after all that what the pro tend to use, especially in the winter.
grab an old shitty steel bike, spend money on a good fixed wheel, and then sort it out, the cheapest the better.
ride as much as possible, you'll eventually understand why some of us actually prefer (myself included) to ride fixed on a century ride than a geared bicycle (but then it is a personal choice).
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And seriously, if you're on London Fixed-gear and Single-Speed...
Bugger, this is the Saturday my parents are coming down to London :(
Get them to ride too...
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I know this is a bit late (and I'll be riding to Paris the time), but Clacton? As someone who grew up in Essex I impore you all to change the route a fraction and go up the coast to the next town - Frinton-On-Sea. Frinton is a lovely victorian town, great chippy and very unchanged and quiet. Clacton is a complete dive full of all of the negative stereotypes of Essex.
Please, do yourselves a massive favour and go to Frinton. The mileage is the same, and the end result is unquestionably better.
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It's really not derailing the thread. Those of us who do a lot of long rides, fixed, get pissed off with people who turn up on gears then proceed to ride at the front of the bunch like they're in the Tour de France and/or zoom down the outside of every descent as if they don't know how to use the perfectly effective brakes fitted to their road bikes.
This is entirely justified.
As ms.chris said this is definitely not true of everyone, I've ridden with lots of considerate folk too, and let's face it it isn't hard to ride in a group fixed with gears, it just requires a little thought and some consideration.
John was obviously annoyed enough by it after the Herne Hill ride to make this particular ride fixed only, so it really is quite pertinent.
And I wouldn't bother about trying to find hipster mates who ride fixed, they don't tend to go outside of zone 2, never mind the M25.
To be frank, there are lots of other rides organised which welcome people with gears. I've ran two myself in the last fortnight. So no moaning about this particular ride being fixed/SS only please.
Relax, all i did was mention it. Anyway, i don't see how banning gears is any more effective than simply telling everyone taking part how to behave. Seems backwards.
Ed, cheers for the advice, i've been lurking here a few years yet, don't have any room for another bike, but maybe one day..
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Relax, all i did was mention it. Anyway, i don't see how banning gears is any more effective than simply telling everyone taking part how to behave. Seems backwards.
You're telling me to relax about it, but you admit yourself you don't know what you're talking about because all you've done is lurk for a few years. So you admit you're coming at this from a position of ignorance.
Banning gears is more effective, because it stops people forgetting to ride considerately. If they're fixed, they can only go down the hills as fast as they can spin, which in the case of most people who ride gears all the time, isn't very fast. John's problem was with people coming down the outside on descents too fast and too close. If everyone was fixed this problem would be solved. Period.
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You're getting very hyped up over nothing. I didn't whinge or moan, i also tried to avoid derailing the guys thread.
All i said was, that i have a bike, with gears, but i would like to take part.
I said i would happily use just one gear, which would effectively make me a single speed rider.If you have a problem with the way people on gears, or ss behave, then simply explain to them, prior to the ride, how to behave, and if they have any respect for you, they will do it. If you put the same energy into making the rules clear, as you have into this silly idea that gears or ss can't or wont ride considerately (period), then no-one will have a problem.
Of course, even if the rule is that everyone will wear tutus, then that's up to him, it's his ride. But that doesn't stop me pointing out that it's a silly one.
Hope it goes well.
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Isn't part of the point of going that Clacton is bit of a dive? It's like a trip to the zoo only all the cages have been left unlocked.
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I've been on a mostly fixed ride (riding fixed myself) in the past, via this forum - it didnt cut down whatsoever on careless and dangerous riding in a group.
Nor did it instantly mean that everyone was riding at the exact same pace. Some people always shot off at the front and didnt wait much for the main group to catch up.
If you've got two fixed people spinning at the exact same RPMs on 42/17 and 48/13, you're also going to have different speeds. So I dont know how limiting it to fixed would somehow mean everyone riding at the exact same pace.
If there are s/s bikes on this ride, I also dont see how that will stop people shooting off on the downhills.
I understand the point about the title of the forum - but I was labouring under the impression that the forum had grown a bit beyond its original remit, and that the rides were more of a social outlet than getting fixed riding practice or training in.
I would have liked to have come (geared) on this spin, because you meet good people on the rides who are into cycling but not ludicrous about it, and enjoy a pint and some chips at the end of it.
I +1 what whatok is saying about setting out some general 'riding in a group' guidelines to cut down on overtaking on the inside, shooting past people without warning, riding halfway alongside someone else, etc, so that everyone could take part.
But it seems the general consensus amongst the attendees so far is that they'd prefer only track bikes on it, so I'm alright (but a little disappointed) to bow out. So have fun, maybe next year.
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you know what John is trying to say but for some reason you're taking what he's saying very literally in order to illustrate your point. Also, nothing was said about track bikes only and John also said that people who ride gears because of injuries (like you and your knee) are completely welcome.
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I am not for excluding anyone.
If you have physical complaint, ride what suits for your comfort.Everybody else should come fixed.
But it seems the general consensus amongst the attendees so far is that they'd prefer only track bikes on it, so I'm alright (but a little disappointed) to bow out. So have fun, maybe next year.
surely this is all that you need in order to be happy about coming on gears?
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You're getting very hyped up over nothing. I didn't whinge or moan, i also tried to avoid derailing the guys thread.
All i said was, that i have a bike, with gears, but i would like to take part.
I said i would happily use just one gear, which would effectively make me a single speed rider.If you have a problem with the way people on gears, or ss behave, then simply explain to them, prior to the ride, how to behave, and if they have any respect for you, they will do it. If you put the same energy into making the rules clear, as you have into this silly idea that gears or ss can't or wont ride considerately (period), then no-one will have a problem.
Of course, even if the rule is that everyone will wear tutus, then that's up to him, it's his ride. But that doesn't stop me pointing out that it's a silly one.
Hope it goes well.
Wow, you really do like to get the last word in don't you? Do you not think I might have tried that approach, given it is blindingly obvious?
If you put the same energy into riding fixed as you currently are into patronising me you'd have lots of experience of fixed by now. I'm still mystified as to what makes you such a self-appointed expert, given your admitted lack of experience.
Oh and you can reply to these points if you want, but I'm about to put you on ignore, so I won't see them.
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I don't know why you're so angsty, it's as if no-one dare question your fixie experience authority. I never claimed to be an expert on anything, and i certainly didn't mean to let you turn this into such a stupid argument. Apologies to the OP in this case.
If you* have* tried the approach of explaining rules, and everyone just ignored you, it's probably because they don't care what you say, regardless of your experience.
Which is frankly how i feel, given your current attitude.This is undoubtedly more of a problem than the rules themselves, which i have made clear that i would be happy to follow. Even with my rudimentary experience and laughable geared bicycle.
But i forgive you, so relax. ;)
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Er thanks, I think?!
So I didn't put you on ignore. Always seems a bit churlish. And I'm sure you're a lovely chap (or chapess) in real life, but as you've probably picked up there are some reasonable strong opinions on this, and it could take a lot more exploring in its own thread. With hindsight I agree with you this probably isn't the right place for it as we are derailing John's thread somewhat.
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Er thanks, I think?!
So I didn't put you on ignore. Always seems a bit churlish. And I'm sure you're a lovely chap (or chapess) in real life, but as you've probably picked up there are some reasonable strong opinions on this, and it could take a lot more exploring in its own thread. With hindsight I agree with you this probably isn't the right place for it as we are derailing John's thread somewhat.
yeah, no worries.
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. With hindsight I agree with you this probably isn't the right place for it as we are derailing John's thread somewhat.
this.
so any more for this ride? it's gonna be brill
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