New Gruppo on older bikes

when i say old i mean a 2000 bike with some 2008 bits on, it's not like a classic chrome lugged rarity

2000 isn't old... not yet anyway, do whatever in that case!

Why, thank you, it was quite a happy bike when I had it.

Are you gay too?
You sound gay... is that you in that photo by your name? You look pretty gay.

Do all your bikes look that gay?

I am very happy yes, of course I sound happy, why wouldn't I be?

put new stuff on old bike and ride it. It's the way forward. Downtube levers are shit for climbing, or riding in a group, or anything really, heavy stuff is crap too. I can understanding wanting to resurrect a beautiful frame, but worrying about which year the brake levers are from or spending a year putting together a nuovo record group from the same year is just silly.

I don't understand the obsession with period correct-ness with bikes that you actually own (in a museum? Fine...) - the people who seem most obsessed with it seem to be the people who ride their bikes the least anyway and therefore not worth listening to :)

Met a guy last night (I think he's on here as dangermouse?) who had the most incredible Moser frame, built with 11spd Super Record, fizik saddle, dt 585 rims etc etc and it looked AMAZING. Bet it rode beautifully too.

what have you bought or what are you planning?

an upgrade on my road bike

Nice Col there, shame about the off-road tyres and weird handlbars.

Weird saddle first.

That Colnago is the gayest bike I have ever seen.

Pity more gays like you don't cycle. There would be less Pengys.
You guys are good with matching colours, apart from the inside out knowledge of musical theatre, right?

put new stuff on old bike and ride it. It's the way forward. Downtube levers are shit for climbing, or riding in a group, or anything really, heavy stuff is crap too. I can understanding wanting to resurrect a beautiful frame, but worrying about which year the brake levers are from or spending a year putting together a nuovo record group from the same year is just silly.

I don't understand the obsession with period correct-ness with bikes that you actually own (in a museum? Fine...) - the people who seem most obsessed with it seem to be the people who ride their bikes the least anyway and therefore not worth listening to :)

Met a guy last night (I think he's on here as dangermouse?) who had the most incredible Moser frame, built with 11spd Super Record, fizik saddle, dt 585 rims etc etc and it looked AMAZING. Bet it rode beautifully too.

Damn those downtube levers they must be shit, it couldn't perhaps be the rider? no its absolutely nothing to do with the rider. After all there was no tour de frances when there were only downtube shifters and if there were they took place only on the flat to avoid climbing (they also avoided riding in groups.) Whilst we are on the climbing comment could you explain why lance armstrong continued to select downtube shifters for his mountain stages then? even in 2004 when bar shifters were available.

If you think heavy stuff sucks then you shouldn't even be considering an old frame, because you could get a far lighter carbon frame for a lot less money direct from china. There is a also a difference between being completely anal about trying to pick up specific year parts or putting something from the same general era onto a bike. Putting new stuff on an old bike is like putting new stuff on an old car, just as a 1960s car looks stupid with modern alloy wheels and neons so does a bike with new gear...but then again it is as always only an opinion.

I do agree that people waiting a year to put a bike together is stupid, but you can happily ride the bike with lesser parts whilst getting the parts together (plus I bet most people on this forum have more than 1 bike, so it's a bit of a mute point)

The most important thing is that it is ridden and in the end that's all that matters, if someone wants to build up a classic bike with modern gear then that is their choice. After all it is far better that it is ridden with new gear than not being ridden at all. So basically we agree... /ends rant.

tl;dr

Agreed but it illustrates another murphie's law in that whichever great gruppo part you pass on due the rarity of the other bits, those other rare bits will magically appear shortly afterwards. The converse of this is also the case but much more expensive.

murphies law will screw you one way or another anyway...so its not worth worrying about. You won't get a flat for a month then you'll get 3 in a week.

I honestly can't see downtube shifter make it any worse on the climb, I usually selected the right gearing before I encounter the incline, rather than changing on the incline.

Try some different climbs.

Downtube shifters are bit iffy when squeezing between a bus and a Ford Transit, though.

Damn those downtube levers they must be shit, it couldn't perhaps be the rider? no its absolutely nothing to do with the rider. After all there was no tour de frances when there were only downtube shifters and if there were they took place only on the flat to avoid climbing (they also avoided riding in groups.) Whilst we are on the climbing comment could you explain why lance armstrong continued to select downtube shifters for his mountain stages then? even in 2004 when bar shifters were available.

If you think heavy stuff sucks then you shouldn't even be considering an old frame, because you could get a far lighter carbon frame for a lot less money direct from china. There is a also a difference between being completely anal about trying to pick up specific year parts or putting something from the same general era onto a bike. Putting new stuff on an old bike is like putting new stuff on an old car, just as a 1960s car looks stupid with modern alloy wheels and neons so does a bike with new gear...but then again it is as always only an opinion.

I do agree that people waiting a year to put a bike together is stupid, but you can happily ride the bike with lesser parts whilst getting the parts together (plus I bet most people on this forum have more than 1 bike, so it's a bit of a mute point)

The most important thing is that it is ridden and in the end that's all that matters, if someone wants to build up a classic bike with modern gear then that is their choice. After all it is far better that it is ridden with new gear than not being ridden at all. So basically we agree... /ends rant.

I thought Lance ran a downtube shifter on the left for the front mech, and an STI lever on the right for the rear mech?

This is only a vague memory of seeing him with a miss-matched pair of 7400 series levers however.

BTW, Moot.

Wait, you people use gears?

Bikes are gay is my new favourite username troll thingy. Although there's been some ace trolls over the years, that one takes some beating. Poobum was good though. Bring back poobum.

Dicki if your parts fit the holes, stick them in. Providing it's, like, legal.

Who the fuck is Lance Armstrong? He sounds really Ghey.

BTW, Moot.

Best thing you've said all year penguin boy.

Still waiting for yours, Ed.

I thought Lance ran a downtube shifter on the left for the front mech, and an STI lever on the right for the rear mech?

This is only a vague memory of seeing him with a miss-matched pair of 7400 series levers however.

BTW, Moot.

yes to the mech bit, yes to the sti bit and yes to the moot bit.

My last road bike was a coppi reparto corsa in columbus neuron, circa 1994. Stuck on a pair of brand new easton ea70s and 10spd ultegra group. It would never occur to me to worry about it, tbh. Would certainly avoid deep section wheels and anything made of carbon, though.

I am sure most tyres are made of a rubber compound, this contains carbon, as are any other plastic bits on your bike.

Even your precious steel is likely to contain... CARBON

Better stop riding in case it catastrophically fails.

well I broke the carbon seat post and the carbon forks on my cross bike, not by crashing just hard riding. It could have been very nasty, and I absolutely dont trust the stuff.

My steel frame catastrophically failed last febuary, but thats because I hit the back of a taxi at 20mph.

I honestly can't see downtube shifter make it any worse on the climb, I usually selected the right gearing before I encounter the incline, rather than changing on the incline.

Where are these magical climbs that never vary in gradient? Have you perhaps mistaken the wheelchair access ramp at your local psychiatric clinic for one?

its only ghey if your balls touch.

Point being - it shouldn't make any difference to how you climb.