Gazelle? Does anyone know anything about them?

gazelle champion mondial tandem

http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats.nl/fietsen-tandems/477094606-2-pers-race-tandem-champion-mondial-gazelle.html?return=eJwtissOgjAQRf%2FFBJbQluiihBj8kwlU2zBtJ0yJBuO%2FOz5259x7wGr7DFb1bPXJ2AM7WCff%2B1LItu2SyaUmwroUQoDCTcL2lzTk6fzAQdczDyVX3air7oJFYA8kyNeZ%2Fyt9ViUQ5RjTFt0aJtHlLnqD3SG6yhyNmjxECjl9JeY0B0DpMgcJTU20DerQv970LToD&df=1&fta=eNotkFlu4zAMhu8ioH2mNlqmkCvMFQJqS42xY6N22qBF7z6iO28fl5%2FLzzTQ906B1ON9vn7wvKvYQyT1nC%2F6teyXYyUd54O%2Bpi3urew92g6CuGx0fyz1fcrx7yfd%2BKvOc30xkN942ab13nFZ72XiOa77ROZ12x4XkOmO1Ma3quLUZ%2B1kSU3lXGtwJKXzkEY7uGcH9shZIKTGfGaM43ZmtNWDAKYAZ8mgtkEAqvG6A7ZqchUoVltRYWg%2Biwq9ByeTEZIu0uyTKx4FEEY9CnhjRpG7khF%2FAXTwHWweMoNAwlz7qSmNDlButrbaIHJrOFXZpYt14E%2BA5qQHxgaSSa3aLA%2BmpksIfXsacajyeyoGUZ926W7QsW5c9utc77fjTYyDXuhmLfy8ipfdvkJGLCTFnyr%2B%2BY8fKjIBff%2F8%2FANQRJQW&fta_ind=9&fs=1

I saw that tandem on MP. Very nice and a bargain, I think.

BTW, how about this 653 ?

Or this EUR 25.- touring bike ?

Or a pretty new track frame ?

Good condition Gazelle Champion Mondial track frame 57cm:
http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats.nl/fietsen-racefietsen/477675434-gazelle-champion-mondial-baanframe-baanfiets-maat-57-cm.html

Does anyone have serious interest in this Gazelle track frame kit ?
I have an "agreement" with the seller, but don't need the frame myself.
SOLD SOLD SOLD

So, if you're looking for a 57cm Reynolds 531c track frame kit, this can be yours.
I'll charge you for the price I have to pay for it plus the postage and a bit for my fuel (I'll pick it up myself and post it the way you want).
Let me know ASAP if you want it.

^Nice one! Very kind also of you to offer it at cost.. Too big for me, but someone should snap that up!
I just picked up a 753 '77/'78 Champion Mondial which I first thought was "only" 531.. I initially bought it to strip, sell the Super Record stuff that is on it, make a little money and whack on the Shimano 600 Arabesque gruppo and moustachebar I have lying around to make my GF a nice bike.. But now I know it is 753 I'm starting to doubt and think it might be a bit of a waste of such a rare frame.. Original paint too..

I have it now, so let me know if you're interested.
SOLD SOLD SOLD
That's what I've paid for it + my expenses.

Does anyone have serious interest in this Gazelle track frame kit ?
I have an "agreement" with the seller, but don't need the frame myself.

So, if you're looking for a 57cm Reynolds 531c track frame kit, this can be yours.
I'll charge you for the price I have to pay for it plus the postage and a bit for my fuel (I'll pick it up myself and post it the way you want).
Let me know ASAP if you want it.

Any thoughts? I didn't know Gazelle used Columbus tubes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220847018319?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_726wt_1139

Doesn't look like a champion mondial to me. Both mine have the rear derallier cable stop on the top of the chain-stay. The seat stays don't look like they are wrap-over either.

Ask for a close up of the bottom of the BB shell, it should have "Gazelle" and a serial number stamped on it.

Any thoughts? I didn't know Gazelle used Columbus tubes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220847018319?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_726wt_1139

Yes, Gazelle has built some Columbus frames, but these are extremely rare. Late 1970s or so. Check out old catalogues.
This is definately not a (Dutch) Gazelle.

Gazelle did use Columbus tubing for a while but those were beautiful looking bikes with great lugs like this one: http://fivenineclimber.com/bikes/gazelle/aa_frames/columbus.htm

They offered a Columbus frame for a while, but stopped with it.
Columbus frames had to be soldered with silver, while all Reynolds 531 could be brazed with brass.
Silver: more expensive, need more skills thus more experiences staff, could not be done with the big sets of torches Gazelle was using in their brazing "street", need better/tighter fit between lugs and tubes.
Instead of columbus, Gazelle continued with Reynolds 753, which required the same skills and handling as Columbus, but was a bit lighter and fashionable at that time.
Perhaps the fact that Gazelle and Reynolds both belonged to the Tube Investment group also played a role.
Later, Gazelle made some prototypes with Columbus tubing (SLX, Max, MS), which never made it to production. A friend of mine still has the SLX somewhere in his garbage as a relique.
After I left the company, there was a model with Columbus Foco tubing, but I can't tell more about that. Just brows old (post 1990) catalogues.

Enough history lessons for today ;-)

Thanks for the info guys, thats twice in so many days now Dutch.

I asked for some close ups anyway, perhaps more will become clear.

Just picked up this Mondial(1980). Still in excellent condition because the bike has not been used for about 15 years.

Doesn't look like a champion mondial to me. Both mine have the rear derallier cable stop on the top of the chain-stay. The seat stays don't look like they are wrap-over either.

Ask for a close up of the bottom of the BB shell, it should have "Gazelle" and a serial number stamped on it.

They offered a Columbus frame for a while, but stopped with it.
Columbus frames had to be soldered with silver, while all Reynolds 531 could be brazed with brass.
Silver: more expensive, need more skills thus more experiences staff, could not be done with the big sets of torches Gazelle was using in their brazing "street", need better/tighter fit between lugs and tubes.
Instead of columbus, Gazelle continued with Reynolds 753, which required the same skills and handling as Columbus, but was a bit lighter and fashionable at that time.
Perhaps the fact that Gazelle and Reynolds both belonged to the Tube Investment group also played a role.
Later, Gazelle made some prototypes with Columbus tubing (SLX, Max, MS), which never made it to production. A friend of mine still has the SLX somewhere in his garbage as a relique.
After I left the company, there was a model with Columbus Foco tubing, but I can't tell more about that. Just brows old (post 1990) catalogues.

Enough history lessons for today ;-)

I actually ended up buying it, £41. Sure isn't light! The seat stays do wrap over and the brake bridge is similar(I think) so I'm guessing that's where the confusion came from.

It does have a Gazelle Headbadge though, which has been poorly painted round by the looks of things. Perhaps a lesser Gazelle?

The grey bike from Ebay is definately not a dutch Gazelle.
They've never made frames with that kind of capping on the ends of the stays (near the dropouts). This is straight. Gazelle always used round/domed stay ends.
Could be a good and nice frame though.

Let's see a pic of that brake bridge!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3TTT-STEM-GAZELLE-PANTO-VINTAGE-VERY-RARE-VGC-/280738265115?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item415d4df81b

Nice but too much £ for me

I just bought myself one of those. Was not cheap, but they are so beautiful I just had to have one.

Just to confirm: all Gazelles should have English bottom bracket threads, right?

Yes, always.

Only exceptiones could be:

• in thread was stripped and chased with italian thread
  
• low end frames with press fit bearings
  

le voila! just like on the Zullos. a beautiful groupset

http://velospace.org/node/19081

hello all! i have a champion mondial. I'm after a new BB, just wondering if i can use italian threading or am i after english? also... what is better? cup and cone or cassette? i think i might just get a cassette because it's easier and i don't have time to clean it all the time. but i do like the idea of making time to clean it...

Jacob, scroll up and read five posts above yours, you lazy bastard.

yeah, i read that just as i posted it. sorry. but what do people reccommend BB wise? cassette?

Jeez, wanna kickstart that project? ;) It came of off my '94 Gazelle Exception, I swapped to Campag Chorus, fancied a change.. Well, the intent is there to swap, but the Chorus headset doesn't fit (very tight on headtube and bottom race to small fo fork).. I'm now swapping the headset to a fitting Stronglight needle bearing one (better anyway) but I broke my homemade cupextractor alu tube because the cup is in that tight.. #coolstorybro

^ I'm terrible sorry but I didn't understand a single word of that.

Anyway, saw a lovely Gazelle on Sunday in Covent Garden with an odd blue plastic basket/tray front rack lash-up. However, the frame was very nice, one of the later lugged (90s IIRC) Formula 525 numbers in cactus green and turbo yellow.