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  • I've moved it a tiny bit, rotated the bar a little bit, it work, but it feel a tiny bit long.

    bit annoying, right now the Brooklyn fit, 55.4cm TT, 70mm stem, 89mm handlebar reach, the Surly being a different bike, 54.5cm TT, 70mm stem, 73mm handlebar reach, it should be noticably shorter!

    Going to double check the geo sheet again, it rode very well during the guided Skyride and the gearing is perfect, 100% perfect;

    Have you compared the two saddle positions relative to the BB? apologies if it is obvious but the easy way is to stand bike with backwheel against vertical wall. Measure from wall to BB centre and wall to saddle nose, and subtract the second from the first. Then compare this for the two bikes.

    I find I like this to be the same for similar use bikes and the ST angle will decide how much of the TT is behind the BB. For example if I had two bikes with 580mm effective top tubes but one with a 72 and one with a 73 degree ST. The reach and setback numbers, taking a vertical line from BB centre to bisect the effective TT line, would be about 10mm different. Or 10mm more reach, from identical saddle setbacks, for the 73deg ST over the 72deg one.

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