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@BrickMan
Howies Epic ed's just arrived, bit gutted :/ £85+ down to £34+postage but build quality & material quality feels nothing like as good as tow paths (and similar pants), and they've been worn before! Seem to have the obligatory chain ring grease marks on them fresh out of the packet, a feature I'm sure that didn't feature on the product description. Will contact Howies, see what they say.