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well, this is why I was afraid of using those terms. But I'll try to define them better.

Humiliation doesn't necessarily mean mocking a person or forcing them to look stupid or something silly like that. For instance I was humiliated when my role models/people I cared about became disappointed in me. Many kids don't have role models or parents fit for purpose.. In this case we can either identify some completely bogus 'community leader' or simply embarrass them in front of their dickhead mates..

Intimidation goes with out saying, though. You should be scared of the police if you are committing a crime. The police don't even scare me that much any more, I doubt a hyped up looting kid with all his mates in tow thinks twice.

Actions and reactions as far as crimes go is fine with me, no need to intimidate/humiliate people though surely? Just warn and then issue a suitable punishment (fines, jail, whatever) as decided by the masses? From the rioting point of view: get enough police on the case and don't budge... detain those who dare to push their luck, excessive force would have been mindless and would've upped the aggression (at that time or at future riots, etc).

As far as respect for the police goes... In my opinion respect doesn't come from experience or humiliation (the opposite rings true for me), respect comes from having care. Perhaps you went down a different path because you cared about what your parents thought, or some other external insight from the careless/no regard for social "norms" mentality?

Essentially instilling social "norms"/laws through aggression/intimidation is never going to work in my opinion, you have to work out why some individuals decided to cut loose from lawful society and go from there.