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  • Does prison, and all it stands for ("redemption", "pay back", "missing out of the fun of being in society"), still work? Ever work? Especially in an increasingly secular society? Or for people who do not see themselves as part of the society they're being "excluded" from? When they're already excluded before going into prison.

    There's a Youth Offending Team and Secure Unit in Wandsworth that has a 92% success rate (measured by something like recorded criminal activity in 24 months post release).

    I say has and is, it got closed by LA budget cuts last month.

  • Who can spell facepalm?

  • No, they're in the kitchen trying to sell us stuff. You're so fucking detached, you know nothing. This is real. This is not some people from the telly.
    You think it will just fizzle out and you will be back on your fucking little bike riding around in sunshine while spreading your ill-concieved pseudo-revolutionary pseudo-socialst preachings? These people don't care about you and your ideology. They will hustle as usual. Just being bit more bold knowing, that the law can do fuck all.

    Why aren't you flexing those big guns of yours and making a citizen's arrest then?

  • time to switch off, do some work, or get on with our scummy lives..

    I'm not bloody done yet.

  • F4c3 p41m

  • Why aren't you flexing those big guns of yours and making a citizen's arrest then?

    Can't discuss it here.

  • It's just makes me sad that I see those two being all happy making few quid they will probably spend on crack by the end of the week.

  • Fuck this shit, i'm off to these riots armed with a megaphone and a copy of Rumours.

  • It's not one or the other.

    Come on Mrak - life is always either one or the other. Its ALWAYS a simple black or white. No shades in between. Definitely not. Never! Get with the programme.
    Pick your side. No sitting on the fence. Sheesh, typical academic. ;-p

    On a more (but not much more) serious note - did I read somewhere yesterday that Col. Gadaffi recognised the London rioters as the legitimate Government of the UK, or was someone taking the piss? Pure genius comedy of the man if he did (murdering scumbag autocrat that he is and all that). I laughed heartily.

  • Fuck this shit, i'm off to these riots armed with a megaphone and a copy of Rumours.

  • Can't discuss it here.

    Oh dont tease

  • Spot on, dispersing the rioting crowds in an almost painless manner.

  • A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

    I think she might actually be serious. :-s

  • A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

    I think she might actually be serious. :-s

    I cannot belive 58,887 people have signed it already.

    wtf.

  • Spot on, dispersing the rioting crowds in an almost painless manner.

    For painful dispersion, can I suggest you use the 29er. The Jankels have nothing on that thing.

  • A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

    I think she might actually be serious. :-s

    Signed, in 5 aliases ;)

  • Big supermarkets fined £50m for price fixing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14473931

  • For painful dispersion, can I suggest you use the 29er. The Jankels have nothing on that thing.

    29er + ghetto blaster playing ABBA, that'll do the trick.

  • A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

    I think she might actually be serious. :-s

    And they can't even spell....

  • ha!

    EEI, the amount of horror you have posted on the internet is frightening. If your child starts rioting will you ask the police to shoot her?

    Now, VeeVee.

    I'm not sure you read everything with understanding or just skimmed through. In all seriousness, it's more frightening to see your attitude.

    If you read the student protest thread I actually wrote that people who want to deploy firearms, army and water cannons should make sure their own kids aren't protesting there in the first place.

    As for these riots now. I wrote few times in this thread on on my twitter, that the use of brute force will only antagonise people and bring blood shed.

    Obviously, if things are ever to escalate and looters turn against private property and endanger human lives I'd like police to use baton rounds. At least baton rounds.

    Imagine you have a family and you find people burgling your home and setting it on fire - would you still feel the same? Would you (or I) be satisfied that the offenders were maybe caught later on and maybe charged and maybe sentenced for burning all your possessions and perhaps murdering your family members with or without the intent? Not sure I'd like to wait for the legal system to bring justice instead of simply preventing the whole thing from happening. Serious question...

  • qwe

  • 4 Police vans just hoofed it into the shithole estate near me down a non-through route silently and I can hear more sirens on the way. I'm going in!

    I love a good raid I do.

  • Big supermarkets fined £50m for price fixing: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14473931

    For the last 3 days their fixed their prices on £0 (null)

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