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• #8527
Talk to me. Need iPhone too?
Nah cuz bait ting...
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• #8528
Feltham Young Offenders again and a new fire in Tottenham (recycling depot).
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• #8529
Is it the one off North Circular near Edmonton? Explosions now according to Ricky Compton (probably trucks).
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• #8530
http://birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com/
just a link . don't know if this is true.
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• #8531
last night the bbc seemed to be right on the button with reporting in the capital. tonight they are so behind. useless.
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• #8532
There Are no disturbances at the moment in Leytonstone, but all the chavy dickheads on their mopeds are back. Oh, how I genuinely deeply hate the fuckres farting in buckets after midnight. I can almost see them in my mind - riding in baggy t-shirts and grey tracksuit bottoms, with their legs dangling freely, because they're too bloody cool to just seat like people on those fucking shitty scooters. Bring back #national service!
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• #8533
Radio snippet about fire in tottenham 5 Live
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• #8534
Wimbledon Morrison and Centre Court has finished being boarded up tonight, saw 3 police cars and lots of officer to be talking to what appear to be 3 yoofs, but that's about it in Wimbledon.
I'm sure it'll calm down in the next couple of days.
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• #8535
Wow, seems every time I'm living in Aus, London has a tragedy. Last time it was 7/7 and now this. Hope everyone is okay, and that this is somehow resolved soon.
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• #8536
What's to stop this kind of shit flaring up every few weeks, every summer perhaps ?
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• #8537
I am loving the conspiracy theorist's take on all this, these people are as thick as shit at the best of times, but this is really bringing out the very best in them:
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*Afros begin riots in London on NWO directions
First NWO imported these Afros into UK in the name of helping the poor, Now the NWO has directed afros to start rioting in the streets of London; these violent incidents will be used to impose an police state when the sheeple will demand an end to these riots resulting in increased police powers to arrest and incarcerate people without warrants
Classic Problem >>> Reaction >>> Solution Operation by the NWO*
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• #8538
What's to stop this kind of shit flaring up every few weeks, every summer perhaps ?
Well, they seem to have discovered a guerilla tactic to apply to disorder, the action of many small (but sizeable enough to warrant a sturdy response) groups that operate independently.
In doing so they've found that police tactics are insufficient to deal with them, unless every last policeman happens to be on the street. This isn't a sustainable way of handling them, so in effect the hooligans (don't know what else to call them) now know that so long as they can organise the many groups to appear at the same time across the same town and city, that they can do whatever they want.
Therein lies their greatest challenge, can they pull off spontaneous organisation? I very much doubt it even with all of the technology at their hands.
They probably can achieve it in response to triggers though, and there's likely to be more triggers over the coming years as cuts bite deeper.
Of course, arresting a significant number now, and funding efforts that embrace the disenfranchised may help to win over or reduce the numbers of a softer lot. Which may help reduce the power of a hardcore group of hooligans. Which may be successful at removing their ability to even gather large enough groups to protect them against police reaction.
I would guess that whilst it's certainly possible to flash up in the future, and that the tactics will almost certainly be seen again, it's not actually likely that they're able to co-ordinate themselves to pull it off.
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• #8539
My theory is that Rupert Murdoch is to blame for this. He seems to be getting flak for an awful lot lately so deviation tactic seems to be a logical course of action.
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• #8540
90% of the rioters I saw in Peckham were young black males but then roughly 80 to 90% of the young men I see in Peckham (say when going shopping for example) are black. From travelling along Walworth Rd (although I don't live there I don't live far away) I'd say the vast majority of young men I see in that area are black. So the fact that most of the rioters both on Walworth Rd and in Peckham were black shouldn't really come as much of a surprise.
... I don't think you're being racist it's just the population of these areas, non?
It's an unsavory aspect, and there are plenty of people out there ready to quote ENoch Powell, and I don't really want to be put in with their lot, but similarly I don't want to go in with those who blithely shout "racist" at anyone who mentions the elephant in the room. (Not you, VanUden, by the way)Are people seeing the make-up of the groups coming together to tidy up the mess?
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• #8541
Therein lies their greatest challenge, can they pull off spontaneous organisation? I very much doubt it even with all of the technology at their hands.
Why do you doubt they could pull off spontaneous organisation ?
They probably can achieve it in response to triggers though, and there's likely to be more triggers over the coming years as cuts bite deeper.
Agreed, every significant event of the right kind will be taken as a legitimising agent for that weekends rice riots.
I would guess that whilst it's certainly possible to flash up in the future, and that the tactics will almost certainly be seen again, it's not actually likely that they're able to co-ordinate themselves to pull it off.
The thing is I don't think you need that much organisation, I agree the group needs to self-organize (the gang moving together) - but I doubt the gang in Harrow talked to the gangs in Hackney or Bristol or Lewisham, the element of exponential growth in activity seems spontaneous triggered only by reports and rumours of similar activity rather than coordination.
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• #8542
Velocio foe Mayor... Or home Secretary. (repped in the mean time).
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• #8543
http://birminghamriots2011.tumblr.com/
just a link . don't know if this is true.
Sadly confirmed to be true this morning.
Extremely troubling, thoughts are with the families obviously.
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• #8544
My theory is that Rupert Murdoch is to blame for this. He seems to be getting flak for an awful lot lately so deviation tactic seems to be a logical course of action.
Definitely.
Current top 10 list of suspects:
1) NWO
2) The Police
3) The Jews
4) Murdoch
5) The Rice Marketing Board
6) Bell Biv Devoe
7) Twitter
8) Facebook
9) Ed Milliband
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• #8545
Technology is to blame.
The techology is produced by Research In Motion Limiterd.A Canadian company.
http://video.canadiancontent.net/1996658-southpark-blame-canada.html
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• #8546
Sadly confirmed to be true this morning.
Extremely troubling, thoughts are with the families obviously.
Not meaning to sound flippant, but I am surprised we didn't see more than 3 deaths (4 including Mark Duggan).
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• #8547
Technology is to blame.
The techology is produced by Research In Motion Limiterd.A Canadian company.
http://video.canadiancontent.net/1996658-southpark-blame-canada.html
Definitely.
Current top 10 list of suspects:
1) Canada
2) NWO
3) Technology
4) The Jews
5) Murdoch
6) The Rice Marketing Board
7) Bell Biv Devoe
8) Twitter
9) Facebook
10) Ed Milliband
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• #8548
gold !!
: )
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• #8549
the stratford posse and i kept the streets of newham clean and safe last night
here's a few pictures of us winding down in the boozer afterwards
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• #8550
Not meaning to sound flippant, but I am surprised we didn't see more than 3 deaths (4 including Mark Duggan).
5, the guy shot in a car in Croydon died.
:(
I'm on my holibobs in Florida at the mo and I can't leave you lot to play nicely for 5 minutes!
Apparently, from the relatives, grays in Essex has it's own bonfire at the rugby club ..... FFS, is that because of the bloke in tottenham too?
It's making the news here......