Double Elim...

Rik has posted this on facebook so there are people from outside of the UK and London coming and voting now.

It's Vidals sunburned belly, it's making him grouchy.

Non-UK votes welcome (the French want two finals it seems).

Rik has posted this on facebook so there are people from outside of the UK and London coming and voting now.

Classic vanguardism.

Mrak, how many people form outside UK had vote???

Non-UK votes welcome (the French want two finals it seems).

I don't care who votes, I just think it's funny. The people's interest in formats continues to amaze me.

thats because you never make it out of the group stage ...
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Mrak, how many people form outside UK had vote???

7/21, 6 of them for two finals, one for not bothered.

thats because you never make it out of the group stage ...
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It would be funny if it made sense. The place I get in a tournament has no bearing on my feelings towards whether non-UK people vote on a poll.

the LO is an internatinal tourney, let eveybody to express their opinion

This isn't a vote for the LO. I tried to make that clear. It was just me trying to figure out how polarized the debate actually is.

so no wrong to have more people in the poll, the more the best result you will get

Nowhere am I so desperately needed as among a shit[I][/I]load of illogical humans

Rik, you're missing or misreading my posts. I don't care if people from outside the UK vote.

Bill, I don't think that insults are within your prerogative as my team captain.

thats because you never make it out of the group stage ...
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Not true. We don't often trouble the winner's bracket for very long. Or the loser's bracket for much longer.

Rik, you're missing or misreading my posts. I don't care if people from outside the UK vote.

Not only do I not care if they vote, I don't actually care which way they vote.

It's Vidals sunburned belly, it's making him grouchy.

Grouchy? Ah, yes. One of your Earth emotions.

now I get why you 3 play together... you guys are weird

Strange. Step by step, I’ve made the correct and logical decisions, and yet I am still stuck with two humans driven by their emotions.

now I get why you 3 play together... you guys are weird

What are you talking about? We're the most normal people we know.

lets face it, most game/tournament formats in polo don't make much sense...we still mix up way too many formats...league, round robin, swiss, single/double elim, best of 3 games, first to 5 goals, timed and unltd...etc

every tournament final cosmic has played in has been based on double elim and we've dealt with it accordingly. sometimes we've had the luxury of an "extra" life and known we can play the potential 1st game safer. othertimes we've had to give it our all from the start. knowing your position into a game def changes your mind set and tactics needed to get the win. Therefore, when you enter a tournament it should be clear from the start the format rules.

how you get to a final isn't easy any way...winners bracket means playing only hard teams and staying focused in between long breaks...going through the loser bracket means you not only have a 2nd chance but you potentially play easier teams or at least till nearer the end and you've also played more games which could be a positive or a negative, as you could have more momentum or be more tired into the final vs the team from winners bracket. Overall, on paper it sounds unfair that the team who made it into the final by not losing any games can potentially be knocked out by a team whos already lost once (possibly by the winner bracket team). so on that thinking playing a double elim final makes sense and is fair.

personally for a tournament format, i like a round robin group stage to seed into a single elim knockout with all games timed, team who scores most goals wins, only one final, team who wins all games is the proven best!

basically, go into every games focused on winning...being in a LOSER bracket shouldnt be an option for the best team!

*cosmic get into LO final via loser bracket and win double elim final ;-)

I voted for 1 final, purely because I thought that it would be more exciting and easier for non-polo peps to understand whats going on.

I fully accept that my opinion should probabaly be disregarded considering I've never been close to a winners bracket.

I often wonder why we use double elim instead of larger single elimination?

being in a LOSER bracket shouldnt be an option for the best team!

Needing an extra final shouldn't be necessary for the best team!

I often wonder why we use double elim instead of larger single elimination?

There is no larger single elimination option, hence the adoption of double elim.

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There is no larger single elimination option, hence the adoption of double elim.

I meant let more teams through to a single elimination stage. Although for the London Open this doesn't matter because we'll be having a sweet best of the worst tourney.