Analog film photography and cameras

You are using colour negative film? Please, use colour transparency, it is infinitely superior, scans better, prints better, lasts longer. Try Fuji Provia.

tranny doesn't neccessarily scan better - as it has a far higher dmax so unless you have a drum scanner or VERY good neg scanner you will be missing a lot of shadow detail.

Color-Neg is just tricky to get colour corrected (due to the orange mask) but is easier to get all the info captured due to its lower dmax.

sure, your choice of film does not make you a better photographer. But there is no need to use an analogue printing system. Most users will scan transparency and print on some variant of inkjet, or something like Fuji Crystal Archive which is hybrid digital/chemical.

sure, your choice of film does not make you a better photographer. But there is no need to use an analogue printing system. Most users will scan transparency and print on some variant of inkjet, or something like Fuji Crystal Archive which is hybrid digital/chemical.

Yeah, I would like to use higher quality film and lenses, but I only started taking photos about six months ago, so I'm not willing to fork out that much cash just yet. The prints are on Fuji Crystal Archive anyway.

I'm pretty hit and miss too.

I'm still looking for a Nikon 28mm f/2.8, AI or AI-s version on the off chance somebody has one. The amount of ebay sellers uploading a blurry photo and one line description boggles the mind.

cough Best camera shop in London.
http://www.apertureuk.com/nikon_manual_lenses.html

Ask for Richard. Say Ben sent you. Just bought a 17-35 from them. it's sexual.

On a side note I have a boxed Nikon F2.8 35-70mm Marco lens for sale. Good condition. Comes with a decent UV filter. Looking for £190 ish for it? Anyone interested? I'll put some photos up tonight, but it looks like this:

You are using colour negative film? Please, use colour transparency, it is infinitely superior, scans better, prints better, lasts longer. Try Fuji Provia.

colour slides cost a fortune to develop, are difficult to develop locally, and don't scan better on consumer quality scanners at all. and they charge even more to print!

plus, if you're new to photography, or your meter's not that accurate (as it probably won't be on a zenit) then you have to be so much more careful with your exposure.

provia is nice though, i like to use that and velvia.

colour slides cost a fortune to develop

Really? Peak Imaging charges £4.44 to develop 36 exposures of Fuji 35mm transparancy, not counting bulk discounts.

sorry, i don't know about london prices, should have been more specific.
they do in coventry, the nearest lab wanted £10 and jessops wanted near enough the same, with a long waiting time while they send it off.

£10 is ridiculous.

Peak Imaging is in Sheffield, they do a 48-hour turnround, professional service.

really?
i thought £10 was standard fare from a professional lab. i also thought that peak imaging was in london, as people from london have talked about it in the past.

you have enlightened me, but i still think that scanning transparency film at home puts you at a disadvantage to scanning negatives. don't get me wrong i do love using slide film it's just not always practical, and there's no point in deriding all colour print film as rubbish when there are a fair number of professional quality films out there which will give you great results.

I must admit I've given up scanning at home, I find it so difficult and time consuming to get it right. I prefer to send the very few images I want to work on to a studio like Metro for scanning. Alternatively there is a studio in Kingsland Road where you can do your own drum scanning. I haven't used it but it might work out cheaper in the end.

... there is a studio in Kingsland Road where you can do your own drum scanning

where's this?

http://www.theprintspace.co.uk/professional-photo-lab.php

If anyone wants a Nikon F5 body for free let me know. The electronics have gone - but could be repaired for a price I guess - but the body would be good for spares.

cough Best camera shop in London.
http://www.apertureuk.com/nikon_manual_lenses.html

Ask for Richard. Say Ben sent you. Just bought a 17-35 from them. it's sexual.

Nice one, thanks. I missed an AF-D version today for a £100 :(

I'll have a gander.

On another note, anyone used a Ricoh GR1s? Or can recommend something good in the same size?

Looking for a good quality small 35mm camera to carry everywhere. Got a GRDI that I really like so thought the film version should be a good choice

Also read good things about Contax T's, though the Ricoh has autofocus going for it, + the easy to set aperture priority

Of course there's the Olympus XA but not sure a rangefinder is what I'm after, think I want something more point and shoot y

Get ricoh r1 waaay cheaper than gr1, with dual 30/24mm lens

This.

Have one that's taken a good kicking so far. As stock they have curtains that come in to make the 24mm setting a pseudo panoramic but it's easy as pie to disable them. You get a lot of distortion/vignette in the corners when using it on the 24mm setting but still looks nice.

There's also the R10, also known as the Elle (as in the wummins mag). Bit more plasticy but I have 2 which I've chucked around a god bit - including flying out of my pocket while cycling at about 30mph - and they are fine. One had a slight light leak from the window in the back that shows what film you have in it but duct tape sorted that.

R1 @ 24mm

R10

both looks interesting, gonna keep an eye on the bay for em

really like that they look cheap and dull, less stealable

thanks for the the tips!

both looks interesting, gonna keep an eye on the bay for em

really like that they look cheap and dull, less stealable

thanks for the the tips!

The R10 is definitely thecheaper and duller looking of the two. Being metal bodied the R10 does still have an air of sophistication about it.

another gr1s went for a load on ebay last night, tired of people bidding too much, i want barginz!

Still looking for an XA if anyone's got one.

Anyone interested in buying an Olympus Mju Zoom-80? Nice 28mm wide angle lens, working, silver with battery and case - I'll put pics up tomorrow - £15 posted.

...Color-Neg is just tricky to get colour corrected (due to the orange mask) but is easier to get all the info captured due to its lower dmax.

Quite the opposite, the amber mask was developed to help render colours better. In early colour photography years, negs were transparent. Due to silver halides being colour blind, somewhere between blue and green, to enhance blue/ green sensitivity amber base was added.
And it's not tricky, it just gives you more possibilities in CC.

in wet dark room development, that's certainly true, but for scanning most software applications don't handle the inversion and neutralisation of the mask very well - which can make colour correction tricky..

It doesn't matter which way you choose, the problem is at the source- negs, they have to have the amber base, other wise you would end up with picture in which blue and greens, are same colour. http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=4298

yes - I completely agree - but having the orange mask (which you cannot avoid as you say) makes scanning and colour correction tricky (in a large % of cases)