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@jaitch
yeah i was pretty shocked too my parents live in central rainham and as I live halfway between the m2 and rochester so its a ride i do every so often. never realised how far it was.
oh and in that case who is it i see almost every evening coming up maidstone road rochester on a fixed mercian towards walderslade? i would stop him but I always (no exception) see him as he is halfway round the roundabout and im going off in the other direction...