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@hugo7
Yep. I pretty much agree with you on Onix.
I didnt post the link to prove definitively that big brands are never the same as Chinses ones. It was more for general info and because I thought it's interesting that anyone can go out and get a frame made in a mold. It looks like this can be done to different specs and standards. If this is true then you just don't know and you'll never know.