Proper leather shoes

decision time.
grenson stanley or william

both in tan the william has a grain to the leather and is unlined (still a reasonable weight leather)
the stanley has a thicker sole and smooth leather.
the archie is the shitkicker version but i'm not interested in those as i already have boots.
i'm off to sainsburys and will be hitting the buy button on my return

william

stanley

Both wank!