Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

I can't understand all the fuss really. His voice always seemed overly contrived and the most popular tracks such as "what a wonderful world" are syrupy beyond belief. His trumpet playing was far better IMO.

When you've been to the moon the lack of atmospheric pressure can change your vocal tones, a shame really.

Oh it's 'unique'

Funnily enough, I was looking at the livestrong.org website earlier to see what they actually do. I work in Cancer Care, and have not seen any livestrong related materials.

At least in the UK, Macmillan provide much better patient/family support. Cancer Research UK provide funding for research - something that is claimed livestrong do, but can't see any evidence of this on their website.

Interestingly, just tried to check on livestrong.org again in case I missed anything, but the website appears to be down. lol.

"...all that meat, and no one potatoes..."

cycling itself seems to be as popular as ever, only the following of the professional scene has declined.

Has it declined or just been watered down, as cycling becomes less the domain of obsessive enthusiasts?

Funnily enough, I was looking at the livestrong.org website earlier to see what they actually do. I work in Cancer Care, and have not seen any livestrong related materials.

At least in the UK, Macmillan provide much better patient/family support. Cancer Research UK provide funding for research - something that is claimed livestrong do, but can't see any evidence of this on their website.

Interestingly, just tried to check on livestrong.org again in case I missed anything, but the website appears to be down. lol.

lance is an inspiration to others and a guiding light.

Funnily enough, I was looking at the livestrong.org website earlier to see what they actually do. I work in Cancer Care, and have not seen any livestrong related materials.

At least in the UK, Macmillan provide much better patient/family support. Cancer Research UK provide funding for research - something that is claimed livestrong do, but can't see any evidence of this on their website.

Interestingly, just tried to check on livestrong.org again in case I missed anything, but the website appears to be down. lol.

There is a Livestrong branded Cancer Centre in South Australia but no-one actually knows whether they contributed anything to it, and there are suspicions that they actually paid Livestrong to use the name as some kind of franchise.(!)

I really can't see how and monies raised by Armstrong for his good causes absolves him from any guilt or testing

Not familiar with Catholic doctrine then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

Not familiar with Catholic doctrine then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence

The indulgence is granted by the Catholic Church after the sinner has confessed and received absolution

We are still waiting for the confession. He can wait for the absolution.

I thought they just sold them for cash in the good old days. Surely that's how he got forgiven by the UCI for the Swiss positive?

Absolution?

YouTube - ‪The Abdominizer Commercial‬‏

So do we think he's deffo been on the gear or do we think he's clean ??

Oh gawd!

merge!

go here crofty
https://www.lfgss.com/thread691-18.html

Just watched the 60 Minutes programme and the extras (managed to miss the Archers as a consequence). Very interesting and worth a look. I cannot see even Armstrong climbing out of this one.

go here crofty
http://www.lfgss.com/thread691-18.html

ok will do.... humble appologies for the duplication.

Who?

no doubt about it. You can tell by the eyes:

all those people in 1969 who looked up to him but he was cheating all the time...

Who?

Lance Gunderson

#hipstermeme#

Dirk Hofman?

Is he a footballer?

(managed to miss the Archers as a consequence).

Some good did come of this then.

Is he a footballer?

See you in court!

it's worth bearing in mind that lance could only behave the way he has because pro cycling allowed him to - i doubt the peloton was under any of the illusions the rest of the world indulged....remember how they treated christophe bassons, filippo simeoni...

Some good did come of this then.

But Clive hadn't missed 'The Archers' for 46 years!