Osama dead

I think anyone who feels safer with the passing of Osama is very naive.

Indeed. I find it strange to even think that. We react in such an immature and emotional way.

I like turning to the words of the wise in this world instead of the media. This is what the Dalai Lama said after the terrorist attack on 11.9.01.
http://www.dalailama.com/messages/world-peace/9-11

Four wives is far too many but I understand how obsessive this interest can become. I personally do not have the space in this tiny flat so with great reluctance I will have to sell - may consider splitting.

I read that USA and Pakistan have an agreement whereby the CIA are permitted to operate in Pakistan, and that this mission was conducted by the CIA, thus negating the need to inform Pakistani intelligence beforehand. This would, if true, make the operation to capture Bin Laden legal.

However from my recollection of reading international law it's absolutely illegal to engage in targetted assasination, so if the operation was to kill him then agreement or not, this would be an illegal act. This is why they must say they gave him a chance to surrender. It's the "he's coming right for us" defence.

a good read

http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/chris-hedges-speaks-on-osama-bin-laden%E2%80%99s-death/

Whilst I agree that the US played into Al Queda's hands, what else were they meant to do?
Chris Hedges solution seems to be "if we ignore them maybe they will go away"

Personally, I think he was a very evil man and, although I will not celebrate the death of any human, I feel safer with his passing.

About the only sensible thing said on this thread.

It's the "he's coming right for us" defence.

YouTube - South Park - Its Coming Right For us!.MP4

Imagine the UK during WWII if news that Adolf had been killed, that's what they are feeling.

Not really a fair comparison. Also, Godwins law.

Saw this on fb, man's got a point:
‎"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that"
— Martin Luther King Jr.

I am consistently fucked off by the general consensus on this forum and the uninformed cynicism of some of its members.

Paper thin, faux-intellectual, cud-chewing, 'liberal' posturing.

What MLK Jr?

Did'nt know he was on here. Is it Tynan?

I am consistently fucked off by the general consensus on this forum and the uninformed cynicism of some of its members.

Paper thin, faux-intellectual, cud-chewing, 'liberal' posturing.

The forum's real preoccupations come out here:

http://www.lfgss.com/thread64183.html

Yeah right, all this fetishism is of course aimed entirely at preparing food. :)

Fox.

What was it about Bin Laden that makes him worthy of your admiration?

:)

Indeed. I find it strange to even think that. We react in such an immature and emotional way.

I like turning to the words of the wise in this world instead of the media. This is what the Dalai Lama said after the terrorist attack on 11.9.01.
http://www.dalailama.com/messages/world-peace/9-11

Amusing that he should refer to America as a democtratic country. Democracy has never appeared big in his view has it?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-13268834

One big terrorist klled, five small ones arrested. We are clearly moving towards terror-free world.

So, to summarise, am I correct in reading this thread to say that the general view of the forum is that Bin Laden was a good man, misjudged by the American backed media who was unjustly persecuted by the Americans and Tony Blair and who was unlawfully murdered by the Americans but is actually still alive somewhere and carrying on his noble work?

ofcourse how could you say "you're an evil human being and you deserve to die" to this face:

Amusing that he should refer to America as a democtratic country. Democracy has never appeared big in his view has it?

I thought he was on the side of the terrorists?

"Shoko Asahara, leader of the Supreme Truth cult in Japan and spreader of sarin nerve gas on the Tokyo subway, donated 45 million rupees, or about 170 million yen (about $1.2 million), to the Dalai Lama and was rewarded for his efforts by several high-level meetings with the divine one."
Source: Christopher Hitchens, at http://www.salon.com/news/1998/07/13news.html

Amusing that he should refer to America as a democtratic country. Democracy has never appeared big in his view has it?

Can you elaborate on this?

Perhaps Clive is referring to the Dalai Lama's former position as the hereditary and absolute god-king of a backward and brutal theocracy in which citizens were treated as lowly serfs by the monks and any dissent was swiftly and violently stepped upon.

I thought he was on the side of the terrorists?

"Shoko Asahara, leader of the Supreme Truth cult in Japan and spreader of sarin nerve gas on the Tokyo subway, donated 45 million rupees, or about 170 million yen (about $1.2 million), to the Dalai Lama and was rewarded for his efforts by several high-level meetings with the divine one."
Source: Christopher Hitchens, at http://www.salon.com/news/1998/07/13news.html

I liked this, although it does further limit the birthday/xmas present list: -

While he denies being a Buddhist "Pope," the Dalai Lama is never happier than when brooding in a celibate manner on the sex lives of people he has never met. "Sexual misconduct for men and women consists of oral and anal sex," he has repeatedly said in promoting his book on these matters. "Using one's hand, that is sexual misconduct." But, as ever with religious stipulations, there is a nutty escape clause. "To have sexual relations with a prostitute paid by you and not by a third person does not constitute improper behavior." Not all of this can have been said just to placate Richard Gere, or to attract the royalties from "Pretty Woman."

http://www.b3ta.com/board/10409033

Still no photographic evidence of Henry Cooper's death...

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Amusing that he should refer to America as a democtratic country. Democracy has never appeared big in his view has it?

Really because California have taken democracy upto, and well beyond what functions. They are testing the extremes of direct democracy.

http://www.b3ta.com/board/10409033

Haha.

They did at one point use Sony controllers to fly drones. Not sure they still do though. Britsh drones = SEGA 8 bit. Maybe.

Perhaps Clive is referring to the Dalai Lama's former position as the hereditary and absolute god-king of a backward and brutal theocracy in which citizens were treated as lowly serfs by the monks and any dissent was swiftly and violently stepped upon.

I think the Dalai Lama agrees with part of your statement.
http://www.dalailama.com/messages/buddhism/buddhism-and-democracy

But please also acknowledge that the people of the so called third world are the lowly serfs of our Western world. Sadly this will create more disharmony unless we re-balance world wealth.