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What if you don't take things that serious? In life I mean.
We're talking about bikes that'll be used as commuters, in the vast majority of cases here. Not at a competitive level. Taiwanese bits of metal to hop of curbs, shit and giggles.
I think NH's point was more towards Haters hating but complaining of being hated by others, which is hateful. ;)
Even a trick bike can be Porn, IMO, if well thought* and set-up.
*Yes, I know some will say that the concept of a 700c trick bike in itself is already a fail.
I say, lulz.