• on a separate issue, i didn't really like the way we ran some of those red lights. i RLJ plenty but always when safe and polite to do so. we were taking the piss. only reason i went through every time is i didn't know the route at all so i couldn't afford to lose touch with the front!!

    agreed. I really liked the ride, but not all the red light jumping, the not waiting a few seconds to reform the group so everyone got quite spread out and even more unorganized.

    the riding into oncoming, over roundabouts, RLJ'ing, going round the roundabout the wrong way and all the other more "dangerous" styles of riding were the effects of having a very fast moving group that was loosely organised.

    That may be true, but I don't think it's a valid reason to run a group ride in such a dangerous manner. It'd be different if it had been run in the early morning hours when the roads were already closed, but it was at night with some areas of heavy traffic. I just think a few minor changes and the ride would've been safer and less chaotic for everyone.

    That said I had a great time, mostly because a bunch of us ended up forming our own smaller group.

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