Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

Exact same lugs as my holdsworth.

Picked up this no name saddle and have been riding it for 2 years. Best saddle I've ever used but can't ID the brand . Just says VELO on the underside

Would love to know what it is as want another one

I bought this Moser for my ex last week, but she's gone now >>>
I'm now looking for some info before putting it up for sale.

I've been googling my butt off, but it's hard to find any info which might concern the bike.
Mainly Shimano 600 AX, which would say early '80s, but can't anything remotely similar in the bulgier.net archive.
No panto'd parts or fancy cut-out shapes in the lugs, but aero down- and seattube.
Is it even a Moser?

Thanks!

Maybe you have to contact Campana, Burscheid, Germany.
Moser importer for a very long time.

http://www.campanaradsport.de/

Yeah, it would be awesome if someone had any more info.
I've heard so many different things. But nothing matches the whole frame.

I have a Viner special professional out of 531 that is identical to that half-stripped blue one. I can't make out what is on the fork crown but everything else is the same. Mine has original paint and decals.
Link to pics

From my research, some have stars on the lugs and crown with 'Viner' on the seatstay caps, others have stars but no 'Viner', and others have lugs and crown like that blue one. I have heard that the differences may be due to date (mine is made for recessed brake bolts, but everything else seems early), with the stars coming during the 80s; I have also heard that it may have been an issue of importers, since I have only been able to find examples of my style of frame in the US (til now). One person I found surmised that it may have been because some were purchased through the US importer, and others bought in Europe and shipped over to the states. I don't know where UK bikes fit into that.

Hope this helps. What size is your seatpost?

Maybe you have to contact Campana, Burscheid, Germany.
Moser importer for a very long time.

http://www.campanaradsport.de/

Thanks, Dutch. Just send an email..

Picked up this no name saddle and have been riding it for 2 years. Best saddle I've ever used but can't ID the brand . Just says VELO on the underside

Would love to know what it is as want another one

Likely to be a Velo Plush saddle that tend to come standard on a lots of OTP bicycles, oddly enough a little hard to buy on it's own.

thanks Ed. It is really comfortable. ebay may be the answer

or LBS parts bins! I've found the same thing, getting hold of a low end/ OE fit parts/items is a bloody nightmare.

i have had this for a while, but dont really know much about it. I was just wondering if anyone had any idea model, year etc??

some pics here...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4815862...7626418233206/

any help would be appreciated.

Looks like one of the budget japanese bianchi's from the late 80's

^^ looks very similar to one I had a while back with the same decals. It was sold to me as a Bianchi Sprint --- can't remember the number after Sprint. Mine and others I found searching were 10 speed and as TBA says above, an entry level bianchi.

got this frame and cant find any markings on it anywhere, it kind of looks like a freddie grubb frame, but could be anything i supose, anyone have any ideas?

The lugs and the rear bridge are exactly the same as my Freddie Grubb branded frame. The thing is, I didn't own it before the restoration, so can't vouch 100%.
Also, if it was a Grubb, it would be the Holdsworthy issue. I'm not even sure if it's 531 at all.

See?

Looks like one of the budget japanese bianchi's from the late 80's

i dont know much at all, so excuse my ignorance. did the japanese bianchis have the 'made in Italy' sticker on the frame?

Possible Serial Number Identification
Several bicycle manufacturers, including Bianchi, use serial number identification and have done so for many years. Most companies press a series of numbers and letters in the metal surface on the bottom of the bicycle bottom bracket shell. Some bicycles have numbers pressed into the inner surface of one of the rear frame dropouts. Contacting Bianchi with the serial number of the bicycle may allow for model or year identification.

F.I.V. E. Bianchi S.p.A.

Via delle Battaglie, 5

24047 Treviglio (BG) Italy

39-0363-3161

bianchu@bianchi.com

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i dont know much at all, so excuse my ignorance. did the japanese bianchis have the 'made in Italy' sticker on the frame?

No, they said MADE IN JAPAN.
I had one for ages, and it was really nice for a 'budget' bike.

Hi there guys

I haven't been reading lfgss for ages as I am now back in NZ. Pleased to see its still going strong. I thought I would post this here as there is so much knowledge here amoungst you lot, and hopefully someone could enlighten me.

This Colnago road frame is one I bought a couple of years ago. The rear dropouts are Gipiemme (not Campy) there has been a repair done to the R chainstay so unsure if these are the original rear dropouts or not. Sadly I don't think it is a high end frame as it feels heavier than my other frames (531c & Columbus SL). From my endless research/googling, the lugs appear similar to some old Colnago Supers, but I don't think it is a Super. Looks 80s by the decals.

Can anyone enlighten me as to what the tubeset could be (definitely not SLX as no ribs at base of seat and down tubes) and if you reckon the frame has any collectible value (besides being a Colnago). I'm actually thinking of filing off the braze-ons and deraileur hangers and making a nice conversion out of it (taboo I know on a colnago, but I suspect its a lower end frame and it rusted like hell, and its already had a repair done on it). If anyone can tell me that this frame model is worth restoring as a road bike I will do so and put a nice Campy groupset on it.

Apologies for the crap images.

No, they said MADE IN JAPAN.
I had one for ages, and it was really nice for a 'budget' bike.

TBA said that mine looked like a budget japenese frame, but its got made in Italy stickers on it...

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I've had a look under the bottom bracket and the rear frame dropout and nothing. I did find some numbers on the front tube.

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any ideas guys...

TBA said that mine looked like a budget japenese frame, but its got made in Italy stickers on it...

The one I had, Bianchi Sprint, also had made in Italy on it. They were making cheap bikes in Italy before Japan. As far as I know it was a budget/entry level frame because the label for the tubing used is not Columbus but tater some kind of Bianchi Tubi. It looks exactly like mine so search Bianchi Sprint. I
May be wrong but it does have a tubing label, the 1-20 thing, and if it was a good bianchi it would have been Columbus.

Teome could be right, (probably is) I thought I had heard of some japanese frames being stickered with 'made in italy' stickers but were simply assembled & designed there. I could be wrong.

Even the japanese budget frames were well constructed, they have rudimentary, chunky lugs and arent the prettiest but are still good quality.

Im not too familiar with budget italian made bianchis.

hmm, you've made me unsure of myself now, TBA. Regardless of where it was made, if you search for Bianchi Tubi Calibrate 1-20 there are some vintage bike forumers who guess that it is some form of high tensile steel, not the good stuff. Again, if it was a high end bike it would not have had that tubing sticker on it

I have had this hanging in the garage for a few years, was always going to do the conversion to single speed. Ran out of time and patience and got a flyer last year. Now considering starting the process, before I do owt, any thoughts on its provenance other than the obvious. It needs a paint job, but would be a shame to lose the Raleigh marking, perhaps someone knows how they could be reapplied once done. Any issues with converting something like this?
Thanks.

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