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Bloody hell, what a response! Cheers guys.
Dan, yes I understand the backwards logic of the dimple thing, hence previously going for a bunch of wtbs with the cut out, but then find my sit bones are too broad and I end uo with numb plumbs in no time (gradually turning to pain, then self contraception). Sdg bell airs are even worse for me.
There was one specialised body geo saddle made around 2005/6 that was uber, was on a test bike which I rode for 7 hours (because there was still daylight and I was loving the whole thing too much).
I did get a measurement, forget what the spesh slang was for it, bit it was one of the wider categories.
also with the dimple saddle its a sweaty experience compared to others :/
Benny hill, thanks much for the offer, but I'm away in the northern wastelands so probably wouldn't work out without postage involved :/
Cheers fir the 3ttt link, might be worth a try that. san marco rolls or b17 normal would probably be the deal, though I've never worked out how brooks works,do they flex or are they rigid, also sweatyness factor? I like the sound of a park bench seat though :p