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^^Get them then, don't worry about every tom dick and harry chiming in here, or the supposed credibility of whichever brand and their current position. Grensons have been bought out, it's still the same bunch of wrinkly old boys who've been making them for years. Church's have been bought by Prada but not a thing has changed with the workforce or the integrity with which they're designed and assembled. You still don't want to buy anything made on a friday afternoon because the Foundry Tavern across the road from the factory is heaving with Church's workers at lunchtime.