New style testing - theme 3.0 & theme 2.0

I use Sublime Text 2 most of the time, and vim when editing over SSH.

You know, I think I'm going to admit defeat with the new style... I'm so close to admitting defeat. It's taken so much effort so far and only the basics are done.

vBulletin is the biggest pile of turd in the world. It's so, sooooo bad. Butchering it to try and make something cleaner is phenomenally hard to do.

And there are fundamental problems that the new style won't solve. Like the fact that it should be possible to have a filtered view of the world: If you only give a shit about Polo, then you shouldn't see anything else. If you only give a shit about Birmingham and Polo, then you shouldn't see anything else.

I am right on the edge of saying: Fuck this shit... this community has outgrown nearly every piece of software I know of.

The only thing that could cope with the size is the reddit code... but that brings problem of its own. Namely that upvoting isn't actually a useful thing for activity based discussions and that it just doesn't fit classifieds at all.

I love the elements of the new design that are in place and working, but hate the rough edges and limitations of vBulletin. My internal debate is whether to fight through the sludge and finish the vBulletin one, or just to fire up Django and to write what I believe to be the right solution once and for all (open source, inviting others to make it happen). It's a real internal struggle, but I do think the new design is a major step in the right kind of direction.

As for the grey background... it's definitely a big deal to people... I'll knock out a white background and see if that helps in the meantime.

I didn't know about sublime but it looks good. It'll take a lot to drag me away from Emacs but I don't like lisp and I saw some mention of python on the website so if there is any way to configure it and run pythin scripts on code then ilI would be very interested. I'll have a propper look at it. Cheers

I think it would be a shame if you did give up on the new theme. I like the minimal look you're going for and I think the colours are great and very easy on the eye. Maybe the fact that you and I code we understand the benefit of dark backgrounds and soft colours in tired eyes. There is probably a preference there that many don't have.

Having said that, you seem to have a very clear idea of what you and we need to get from the forum software and where the problems lie in VBulletin. From that perspective, having run a large site, if you have the time, patience and motivation to get something written in django it could become arching very useful and possibly used by others.

If you do decide to go this route, I would be happy to help. I'm going to send you a pm