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thanks ed
custom made by some famous small -scale builder (whose name i forgot as soon as i was told it ) - internally lugged and fillet brazed i think - 140mm - 90s mtb stuff i'm sure
1 quid from a bike jumble - took this to the track recently (with 90mm stem ) and i was way too far back (me with my tourer style set up - couldn't get the power down )- might have gone too far the other way - we'll see as soon as i get another chance to ride it.