Gazelle? Does anyone know anything about them?

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how about this?
http://www.lfgss.com/thread57378.html

Earlier in this topic an image of a Gazelle AA Super was shown.

http://fivenineclimber.com/images/cinelli/gazelle_pages/aa_super_anni1.jpg

Last year I purchased an AA Special with identical colour and markings. Its serial number dates it to 1984, so it appears to be a Gazelle factory respray.

My question is, should I have pantographed forks?

Yes, definately.
But in case you're talking about an AA-Super: the very first frame sets from 1984/1985 came with forks crowns w/o logo. The logo was added to the fork crown fron the second batch.
See also pics in 1084 catalogue. No logo in AA-Super fork crown (also picture backside of catalogue, the ivory fork crown in the back is an AA Super).

My Champion Mondial ATB has the brazed unicrown fork. The mech cables run over the toptube. Indeed cantis at the back, on the seatstays. The frame has 'Gazelle' engraved in stay caps and the dt & st decals are the later Italic ones.

I do not have a pic yet, but it looks nearly identical to this one >>

The bike came with a 27.0mm SR Extra Super Light road post fitted, but that short early 80s post was absolutely not original.

The bike is in very good shape. I am happy to have been able to acquire this. I started my cycling live with mountainbikes. Road caught my interest only a half decade ago. I do have tree Dutch mountainbikes now: this Gazelle, a Zieleman and a Rafty.

Hi,

I recently bought a Gazelle All Terrain Bike frame. It is in reasonably good nick but the fork is missing unfortunately. Does anyone happen to know the geometry of this fork or has a spare for sale? What sort of forkcrown was used? It has got the transferstyle of shown Champion Mondial frame: does this mean it is from 1990 (can't find a '90's catalog)? It has a bright blue metallic color: could this be 'Baikalblauw' code 68? I'll try to post a pic soon.

Thanks for answers.

Hi,

I recently bought a Gazelle All Terrain Bike frame. It is in reasonably good nick but the fork is missing unfortunately. Does anyone happen to know the geometry of this fork or has a spare for sale? What sort of forkcrown was used? It has got the transferstyle of shown Champion Mondial frame: does this mean it is from 1990 (can't find a '90's catalog)? It has a bright blue metallic color: could this be 'Baikalblauw' code 68? I'll try to post a pic soon.

Thanks for answers.

The first Gazelle MTBs showed up around 1984. That's when they made the 1st prototypes in house and may have shown it in catalogues and trade shown. http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/31145d1285158350-gazelle_atb.jpg
Those 1st series were a bit different from this catalogue picture. It had a very wide fork crown, almost flat, and traditional style. Not this kind of "unicrown look". The 1st series had the older stule logo's too, but never had the Champion Mondial decal on the top tube. It was called "off the road", but it reallt was part of the Champion Mondial range.
The later ones (as on the picture you show) had newer decals, different lugs and fork crowns. I guess yours is from before 1990. I doubt if Gazelle made MTBs from 1990 onwards.
Geometry: may have been changed through the years. Browse through the catalogues. In some of the catalogues between 1985 and 1990 there were geometry tables of the whole range (limited info though).
Colours: customers could choose from the full range and all combinations. So, basically everything was possible, inclusing Baikalblue 68. However, frame number and decal style can give correct info about "date of birth".

I don't know if someone is selling such a fork, but I know a frame and fork for sale. Maybe you can buy the set and re-sell the frame. Could be an attractive deal. Let me know if there is serious interest. http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/HarrieH/Vintage/?action=view&current=DSC02465.jpg

http://www.lfgss.com/post1896374-30429.html

Hi,

I recently bought a Gazelle All Terrain Bike frame. It is in reasonably good nick but the fork is missing unfortunately. Does anyone happen to know the geometry of this fork or has a spare for sale? What sort of forkcrown was used? It has got the transferstyle of shown Champion Mondial frame: does this mean it is from 1990 (can't find a '90's catalog)? It has a bright blue metallic color: could this be 'Baikalblauw' code 68? I'll try to post a pic soon.

Thanks for answers.

Cool. Looking forward to pics. I almost finished my rebuilt. I only need the right colour cables and Ourys.

Does yours have a gear cable routing on top tt or under dt/bracket? Bottle bosses on seattube too?

The last year I see them appearing in the catalogue is 1992. View several posts up for the catalogue source link. It could be the fork is missing because it once had one of the 1st suspension forks fitted, like for example a Rock Shox RS-1. Personally, if I saw myself confrontated with your issue, I think I would source a radical fork. For example a Tange Switchblades. This type of fork became a distinctive upgrade late 80s/early 90s. They look good and offer precise handling, but do not deliver much comfort.

Glimpse of Tange 'US' Switchblades >>

Black chrome blades. There is also a regular Switchblades. They use smaller diameter Tange Prestige blades and polished crown. Couple other makers of radical forks: Syncros, Brodie, Bontrager

Thanks for the feedback! Pic's are coming this weekend. I was wondering which year it is from because it has the new style decals and the '89 catalogue shows the old style. Also in the '91 catalogue it is called Champion Mondial instead of All Terrain Bike ánd it has got the new style decals. Frame number is 3328192. Numbers starting with 33.. where issued from '77 on until an unknown (to me) year.

Frame details: toptube cablerouting, bottle bosses on seattube too. I kind of hope the fork has the wide crown. I think a similar one can be sourced. If it originally had a unicrown, could it be the same fork as the M-Bike had in e.g. '98?

Thanks for the tip on the frameset: I'm interested but can't receive private messages yet (I'm active on Dirty-pages.net though). As far as suspension, I'll have to gain some knowledge about the one(s) mentioned. I take it the framegeometry is not sus-ready?

Thanks again for your knowledge!

I was wondering which year it is from because it has the new style decals and the '89 catalogue shows the old style. Also in the '91 catalogue it is called Champion Mondial instead of All Terrain Bike ánd it has got the new style decals.

I see it is shown in the '89 catalogue with a 'All terrain bike' decal but called 'Champion Mondial' I understand what you mean now, DutchCheese. Ánd it has got a wide forkcrown, I'm happy with that for good looks-sake! ;)

Ow, and I have canti-bosses on the seatstays but I understand from previous posts that bosses on the chainstays are an option. Sorry for the erratic posting...

Frank,

The RS-1 fork I mentioned is a suspension fork. The radical forks are all rigid forks. Rigid blades bolted to al crowns. The Bontrager forks used the same crown as the RS-1 btw. Your frame is for sure not suspension ready, but an old short travel suspension fork wouldn't hurt as much as a later fork. Still, imo early suspension is very easy way to ruin a bike with. Nice for the museum.

I would say the original fork should be an unicrown for your frame. Judging by decals, routing and bottle bosses. The unicrown is absolutely not the same as that of the M-bike. The CM ATB is very 80s style. It is a brazed unicrown fork for the CM btw.

Almost finished the dented Gazelle..
To do/change: tires, pedals, cogspacers, saddle, bartape and wheelstickers.

Thanks! Turned out better than expected tbh.
Too bad it's not for me, but it's too big anyway.

It's gone already.
I build it for an acquaintance.

Dutch, do you know what's the diameter of a (1958) Gazelle 'opoefiets' seatpost ?
Can't seem to find any info..

No idea.
Ask a LBS
I guess it's quite similar for all frames of dutch steel citybikes.

Guess 28.6 - (2x1.5) = 25.6 mm.

Will be an inch or so.

Ok, thanks.
I asked the LBS, but they didn't know.
Needs to be bigger than 26, I think - I'll just try some out.

If you have a frame, you can measure it with vernier callipers (schuifmaat).
If the tube inner diameter is a bit too small, you can use an adjustable reamer without any harm. Removing 0.1 - 0.2 mm or so must be no problem.

Thought I'd post a picture of my Gazelle AA Special. Built up with Campagnolo Chorus/Athena gruppo and Vento wheelset.

If you have a frame, you can measure it with vernier callipers (schuifmaat).
If the tube inner diameter is a bit too small, you can use an adjustable reamer without any harm. Removing 0.1 - 0.2 mm or so must be no problem.

Yeah, I now know what it should be close to, but I thought you might now exactly, since, well, you're the man (to ask). ;)

Lovely bike, Uncle Buk!

Here's a pic:

I figure it is from '89 and originally had a wide fork crown (not uni-crown) as it is shown like that in the '89 catalogue. Does anyone know what this colour is called? Thanks.

Nice bikes btw!

Thought I'd post a picture of my Gazelle AA Special. Built up with Campagnolo Chorus/Athena gruppo and Vento wheelset.

Damn, that one looks almost identical to mine! I still have to change the headset an make some better pictures.

Gazelle AA-Special
Full Chorus with 1st gen. Record ergo's

Here's a pic:

I figure it is from '89 and originally had a wide fork crown (not uni-crown) as it is shown like that in the '89 catalogue. Does anyone know what this colour is called? Thanks.

Nice bikes btw!

Nice! Toptube routing, seattube bottle bosses are a plausible give away for later than '89 on the other hand.