Ambrosio Riva- anyone have experience with this?

I dare not speak its name.

Definitely not the same as a Fuji track 2.0 - got one on the wall in the living room next to my Edwardes and they're very different. The 2.0 has some rather lovely bladed seat stays for a start, fatter tubing elsewhere, etc etc. Very similar seat tube though.

Ah ok, my bad. To think that you can't trust what a salesman tells you. I've never seen a Fiji track 2.0 so I was going on what I was told by a guy at velodromeshop.

The Nelson is around the same price as the tifosi. Any idea what the welding is like in comparison? I can't tell from the pic

Does anyone know anything about the Moda Forte. It's a little bit more expensive than Dolan track champion. I met the guy who runs the company at the bike show last weekend. Nice guy, not that that says anything about the bikes. Uk company too but maybe another Taiwan/china job. He said they were 'built in England but he was probably referring to building up the bikes components rather than the frame. Can be bought as framesets
http://www.eurobike.uk.com/list.aspx?CAT=67