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Also, I can't be bothered to run in circles with Tynan any more. I've made my point, and I believe I'd made it clear for anyone to read. The students are getting a bum deal, they're pissed off about it. Just like other people would be. They are not horrible little greedy monsters that should shut up and do what they're told.
Is there a limit to how many straw men are allowed on one thread, surely there is the fire hazard to think about ?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't lightly dismiss that as a straw man. It took me a while to realise it, but i think that is horatio's main point from the last few pages: that it's reasonable for students to protest given what they see as happening to them. It's unfortunate he argued the toss with you over just how big their debt will be when i think it makes more sense to argue on how they perceive the change (accurate or not), or let it go and pick the more serious effects he'd mentioned earlier (just how big a funding cut this is, etc).
Is there a limit to how many straw men are allowed on one thread, surely there is the fire hazard to think about ?[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't lightly dismiss that as a straw man. It took me a while to realise it, but i think that is horatio's main point from the last few pages: that it's reasonable for students to protest given what they see as happening to them. It's unfortunate he argued the toss with you over just how big their debt will be when i think it makes more sense to argue on how they perceive the change (accurate or not), or let it go and pick the more serious effects he'd mentioned earlier (just how big a funding cut this is, etc).