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  • Seriously head remains still

    For me these kinds of discussions are too bogged down with things no one has said or argued for.

    This is absolutely true. Discussions will often morph into something else completely, with two people still taking their sides, even though they never meant to argue about such-and-such thing, and may not even believe what they've been led to argue about. This cool little trick is often used by people on purpose. Most famous of them was Socrates. Because of it, he got the reputation of a gadfly and was put to death by Athens. In this situation, you're reminding me a bit of a gadfly, Tynan.

    This type of directed (or accidentally directed) argument is exactly what I'm trying to stop from happening with you. I have repeated my argument many times now. You have repeated yourself just as many times, but what you have repeated is "I don't think the comparison stands." I have explained why the comparison works for me in this particular case (as an example to be used in a thought experiment to garner insights into the existential reaction in an individual. and whether students are distinct from the rest of the population in their reactions). You counter by saying, "I don't think the comparison stands." You want to make it an argument about something else. Something about optionality, re-payment schemes, value-for-money ideas. Fair enough. Have that argument. But you're not going to have it with me.

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