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  • a rider like mr. doping ulrich doesn't make the frame better or 500€ worth. stupid.

    I don't want to open up this debate here but i think it is save to asume that Jan wasn't the only one doping at the time the question is rather, who wasn't (no i am not just saying that - I am actually good friends with an ex team telekom rider who rode with him for years). I agree that the price is high but maybe it is worth that to some people and if not u can always try and talk to the seller.

    53.5CM? how old was he when he owned this. i thought he was a big bloke.

    it says he rode it as a youth for his local lub in berlin.

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