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  • Interesting read in this months British Medical Journal about bicycle weight and its effect on commuting time...

    http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c6801.full

  • I guess an audax type set up would be the best bet? I can't imaging i'd be carrying much gear on it though so racks not necessary. Half way between an audax and a racing model?

    Again, not sure about contemporary performance, but I get a fair bit of pop out of my vintage-looking Bob Jackson Audax Club:


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  • Interesting read in this months British Medical Journal about bicycle weight and its effect on commuting time...

    http://www.bmj.com/content/341/bmj.c6801.full

    Excellent. Needs reposting in other threads I think.

  • Meh.

    All this lack of weight, and bike stiffness gumbo, is about feeling fast. Most of the energy lost riding a heavy bike up a hill, or flexing a chainstay. Is returned, either whe you desend the other side of the hill, or the chainstay flex's back.

    So yes, tests give similar time for wildly different bikes. But I dont particularly want to get to work early anyway. I do like to feel fast though.

  • Again, not sure about contemporary performance, but I get a fair bit of pop out of my vintage-looking BJ:

    Love it. I've just sold off everything but one bike in order to build an all-new road bike with all modern components, but based on a steel frame. I used to have a BJ frame I loved in ice metallic blue, thinking of just getting another like it, but with more chrome bits. Probably Athena/Centaur group.

  • Worth a new thread, WW

  • Love it. I've just sold off everything but one bike in order to build an all-new road bike with all modern components, but based on a steel frame. I used to have a BJ frame I loved in ice metallic blue, thinking of just getting another like it, but with more chrome bits. Probably Athena/Centaur group.

    Mine has 2008 Veloce and Ambrosio Excellence rim/Chorus hubs (courtesy of AndyP)

  • Crispin Glover, exactly like my Dad's Bob Jackson Audax with full Centaur groupset, which he now run on fatter tyres instead for smoother and faster ride, the only thing that is old is the seatpost (the saddle is a new Rolls instead of the one pictured).

  • Again, not sure about contemporary performance, but I get a fair bit of pop out of my vintage-looking Bob Jackson Audax Club:

    Did you post this on the 'one bike' thread?

    Should have. I'd be happy doing all the things the OP wanted on that BJ (actually looks my size). Looks bloody good too.

  • SF: will post to One Bike
    (it's a 20in BTW, which I think is a perfect fit. BJ wanted to sell me a 19in)

    ES: makes me want another BJ - different colours for different moods

  • I actually had a modern Centaur on my Pinarello.
    I swapped it for an old pantographed Victory/Triomphe mix, because of the looks (as advised by the very forum - "Oh no, you have to restore it! Blah blah blah").

    To be honest, I don't need a carbon frame or modern components. My bike is fast and light enough. Too fast sometimes and I don't even race it. Going down few hills in Essex I was shitting myself already.
    The only thing I wish I had, was a modern groupset and Ergo shifters.

  • Ed, it's a lovely bike. There's a bike in Condor at the moment with Athena alu fitted, it's so pretty.

  • To be honest, I don't need a carbon frame or **modern components...
    **
    ...The only thing I wish I had, was a** modern groupset and Ergo shifters.**

    mmm?

  • Apart from the groupset. Like a-head stem or fancy carbon seatpost.

  • Cyclists may find it more cost effective to reduce their own weight rather than to purchase a lighter bicycle.

    Heh, polite way of saying "lay off the mince pies, tubs"

  • Cyclists may find it more cost effective to reduce their own weight rather than to purchase a lighter bicycle.

    Heh, polite way of saying "lay off the mince pies, tubs"

    That is my philosophy - until I can lose 7-10 pounds off myself, there is no point spending £1000+ to shave 3-5lb off my bike's weight

  • SF: will post to One Bike
    (it's a 20in BTW, which I think is a perfect fit. BJ wanted to sell me a 19in)

    My my BJ is 20 1/2", I run a 110mm stem to get the reach right. But could'nt go bigger, without carrying something to stand on to get on it (bloody horizontal TT's).

    To be honest, I don't need a carbon frame or modern components. My bike is fast and light enough. Too fast sometimes and I don't even race it. Going down few hills in Essex I was shitting myself already.
    The only thing I wish I had, was a modern groupset and Ergo shifters.

    Nice bike that. I reckon younotice your on a race bred stead, long before subtle differences in material stiffness and weight come ino it.

  • Excellent. Needs reposting in other threads I think.

    It's an n=1. It reports one users time. We can't say that he's representative of the population. His journey time seems to be slower in winter. I'd like to see more repeats with different individuals. It may be that chasing his fitter colleague dragged his mean time on steel down, while the slowest time in snow was on carbon.

  • That is my philosophy - until I can lose 7-10 pounds off myself, there is no point spending £1000+ to shave 3-5lb off my bike's weight

    My new ultra modern road race frameset, which had a RRP of £1500, not 20 months ago.

    Aparantly weighs 1.38Kg frame + 550g forks.

    So vintage weight, and contemporary prices. ;)

  • the only thing that is old is the seatpost (the saddle is a new Rolls instead of the one pictured).

    old technology tubeset
    old technology method of joining tubes
    old technology method of stem/handlebar attachment

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  • tired? have a lie down.

  • It's an n=1. It reports one users time. We can't say that he's representative of the population. His journey time seems to be slower in winter. I'd like to see more repeats with different individuals. It may be that chasing his fitter colleague dragged his mean time on steel down, while the slowest time in snow was on carbon.

    I have another article about the new Trek Malone (the carbon race-ready one), will scan that in.

  • Mrs Myth, will you marry me?

  • Mrs Myth, will you marry me?

    only with a very lucrative pre-nup

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